[Terrapreta] Catalyst: Carbon Bigfoot

[lou gold]

Hi Duane,

I've watched as you and Sean have argued about CO2 in relation to climate
change.

Now, even though you have most cordially included my name in invitation to
respond I must respectfully decline.

Thanks and hugs,

lou

On Dec 9, 2007 4:44 PM, Sean K. Barry <sean.barry at juno.com> wrote:

>  Hi Duane,
>
> Read as much as you can from this site -> www.ipcc.ch  ... Read
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming and
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radiative_forcing
>
> This will cover most of the current thinking, conclusions, and findings of
> the research done by the best professional Global Climatologists that there
> are (the Nobel prize winners).  Why you think that repeating the words of
> people who would know better is a problem, I don't know?  I do not
> exaggerate.  I think that if you read what is written on those sites you
> will see that what I have stated is relatively conservative thought on
> this.  I think I know a lot more than most about climate change, because I
> take the time to research it.  I'm not hiding, squatting, and shitting
> myself in fear and confusion about any of it.
>
> Healthy skepticism is one thing.  Belligerant ignorance and name-calling
> against people who do read and value the work of others is altogether
> another.  Good academic research papers, where people study works by others
> and summarize their findings gleaned from that research, are written with
> cites to other researchers.  The kind of claims that are solely authored are
> the ones that lack credibility.
>
> Regards,
>
> SKB
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Duane Pendergast <still.thinking at computare.org>
> *To:* 'Sean K. Barry' <sean.barry at juno.com> ; 'lou gold'<lou.gold at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* 'Terrapreta' <terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 09, 2007 10:17 AM
> *Subject:* RE: [Terrapreta] Catalyst: Carbon Bigfoot
>
>  Sean, Lou
>
>
>
> If it turns out CO2 has little influence on climate change, then what
> limits on atmospheric concentration would we look at next?
>
>
>
> I read and hear expressions of impending climate catastrophe as a result
> of CO2 emissions incessantly. Most of the loudest voices know very little
> about climate change and are just repeating and even expanding on the
> exaggerations of others. It's arousing my skepticism and I suspect that of
> many others. The over-inflated hype will not likely be taken seriously.
> Little of significance will be done. Isn't that the story of the boy and the
> wolf?
>
>
>
> Duane
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Sean K. Barry [mailto:sean.barry at juno.com]
> *Sent:* December 8, 2007 3:54 PM
> *To:* still.thinking at computare.org; 'lou gold'
> *Cc:* 'Terrapreta'
> *Subject:* Re: [Terrapreta] Catalyst: Carbon Bigfoot
>
>
>
> Hi Duane,
>
>
>
> You say:
>
>
>
> One point that is rarely brought out is that if all the estimated
> quantities of fossil fuel were to be burned, the amount of CO2 in the
> atmosphere would be increased only a few times - and would be far below the
> amount considered to be a direct health hazard.
>
>
>
> Well, I think this is a pointless and specious argument.  There is a
> magnitudes higher concentration of CO2 in every breath you exhale, than even
> 1000 parts per million (that is ~3 times the current atmospheric CO2
> concentration).  That is not even DIRECTLY hazardous to human health!  If
> you think the health concern is personal (and direct) death by asphyxiation
> from too high of CO2 concentrations in the air, then you missed the message
> on what the real danger of CO2 and other GHG in the Earth's atmosphere is.
> The indirect effects on Global Climate caused increased GHG concentrations
> effect the living ecology for all living things on the planet (not just
> humans or animals, but plants too!).
>
>
>
>
>
>


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