[Terrapreta] ***SPAM*** Re: Fw: a tiny outburst of common sense

Gerald Van Koeverden vnkvrdn at yahoo.ca
Wed Dec 19 21:57:25 CST 2007


All you are saying is that we can't afford to 'fix it'...we can throw  
$500,000,000,000.00 at trying to keep control of the oil business in  
the mid-east, but damned if we can afford to deal with the  
consequences...


On 19-Dec-07, at 2:00 PM, Greg and April wrote:

> Look what happens when the cost of fuel goes up by $.20 in the  
> course of one month.
>
> Business tack on delivery fees & gas surcharges and keep on going  
> as usual.
> Cost of living goes up and things go on as usual.
> To keep up with cost of living wages have to go up and things go on  
> as usual.
>
> Only one thing really happens, and that is the gap between the  
> people that have money and those that don't have money grows even  
> wider.
>
> People with lot's of money have the resources to deal with things  
> like a carbon tax - one only has to look at Al Gore to see that in  
> action.    His utility bill is more  in one month, than twice my  
> mortgage, and what does he do?    He doesn't cut back, he forms a  
> company to by carbon credits, and then uses even more.
>
> http://www.snopes.com/politics/business/gorehome.asp
>
> We see the proof every year - increasing the cost of fuel,  
> regardless of it's use is a good way to kill people.
>
> Every year in summer and winter we hear about people ( usually  
> elderly ) who die, because they can't afford the utility bill that  
> would other wise keep them alive, and now people want to raise that  
> utility bill even higher, with a carbon tax?    What about the cost  
> of medical attention?
>
> For some of my medical needs, I have no choice but to drive over 80  
> miles one way ( more than 160 miles round trip ) - are you going to  
> buy me a new car that get's 45+ mpg ( or pay the CO2 cost of my  
> getting medical attention )?    What about the cost of the carbon  
> that it takes to make that new car?    Even at 60 mpg, it will not  
> pay off the energy that was used to make it, for more than 5 yrs.
>
> A tiny burst of common sense is fine and dandy, but, having a  
> larger burst and fully thinking it through is even better.
>
> Greg H.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Sean K. Barry
> To: Terrapreta at bioenergylists.org ; Greg and April
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:25
> Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Fw: a tiny outburst of common sense
>
> Hi Greg,
>
> Even something as small as a $.05 charge per gallon of liquid fuel,  
> would
> have a major ripple effect, all around the world, yet would accomplish
> little in return.
>
> On what basis do you make this claim?
>
> Regards,
>
> SKB
>
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