[Terrapreta] A New Theory of Climate Change

[Sean K. Barry]

Hi David,

Thank you David!   I hold many of these sentiments too.  Sometimes this list just drives me crazy with the nonsense I see and hear.  The rationalizing and denial is just the beginning.  The malaise when you want to talk about the problems in any rational or technical way is palpable.  It's like there is intentional disregard for anything real to be shown.  Some just don't want to hear it.  They will babble about anything to try and throw you off base.  I am really getting to think that talk means nothing.

I think that ACTION is the only thing reasonable to do.  I am acting on my beliefs.  I need to do more of just this and stop trying to beat the drum for this cause too much.  Some people are just never going to get in with it.  They don't' think the same.  They do not observe.  They do not look beyond themselves and there own personal needs for feeling safe about not changing a damned thing about what they do ... It gets exasperating.  The thing is ... and this will chap there asses  ... I'm way better at doing, than I am at trying to convince the hoards of putzi about what is going on.

Regards,

SKB
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: David Yarrow<mailto:dyarrow at nycap.rr.com> 
  To: terrapreta at bioenergylists.org<mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org> 
  Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 11:50 PM
  Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] A New Theory of Climate Change


  i think this quote below is utter and complete nonsense by hardheads still 
  stuck in denial, who are willynilly willing to fabricate data to support 
  their unwillingness to admit how massively human industrial abuse of nature 
  is dismantling the ecosystems that are our planetary life support systems.

  over the decades, having dealt with many addictive, self righteous and 
  self-centered personalities, i know reality is no obstacle for such people 
  to rationalize and sustain their behaviors and habits.  and what we are 
  faced with is an entire society massively addicted to oil, coal and wood 
  products consumption.

  since the 70s, it has been my observation (and many others') that trees in 
  general are not growing well, and in fact are actively dying on many 
  mountaintops.  any ecologically sentient person who drives through any 
  american city can see ample evidence trees are not healthy, and are in 
  serious decline.  and along highways there is lots more evident evidence. 
  and if that isn't enough factual data about the deepening crisis of trees 
  and forests, just study the data for several steady years of increasing 
  forest fires, and over-spent budgets for fire fighting.

  or consult the data on the increase of deserts worldwide.

  considering that trees and forests are the lungs of the earth that allow the 
  biosphere and atmosphere to breathe out oxygen and fix carbon, this has very 
  serious and rapidly onrushing consequences.

  what is truly alarming isn't that the trees and forests are declining. what 
  is alarming is how few humans notice and grasp the significance.  we are 
  raising a generation that is computer literate, but has little ecological 
  literacy -- no capacity to observe, understand and interact intelligently 
  with nature.

  David Yarrow
  "If yer not forest, yer against us."
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  if one only remembers to turn on the light."
  -Albus Dumbledore

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "Jeff Davis" <jeff0124 at velocity.net<mailto:jeff0124 at velocity.net>>
  To: "terrapreta" <terrapreta at bioenergylists.org<mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>>
  Sent: Saturday, September 01, 2007 11:13 PM
  Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] A New Theory of Climate Change


  > "A review of the research literature concerning the environmental 
  > consequences
  > of increased levels of atmospheric carbon dioxide leads to the conclusion
  > that increases during the 20th Century have produced no deleterious 
  > effects
  > upon global weather, climate, or temperature. Increased carbon dioxide 
  > has,
  > however, markedly increased plant growth rates. Predictions of harmful
  > climatic effects due to future increases in minor greenhouse gases like 
  > CO2
  > are in error and do not conform to current experimental knowledge."
  >
  > end of snippet:
  > http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p36.htm<http://www.oism.org/pproject/s33p36.htm>
  >
  > Lots of data and science. 


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