[Terrapreta] Caution on Urine

[Gerald Van Koeverden]

Paul,

Liquid fertilizers used in greenhouses here in Canada already have a  
complete range of micronutrients.

Sounds like American greenhouse growers have some catching up to do...

Gerrit




On 7-Apr-08, at 2:16 AM, Paul Elmore wrote:

>
>
> Hey all,
>
> I think urine is a great fertilizer if used with micronutrients.  
> The reason
> cows don't prefer this grass around urine spots is because it  
> tastes flat.
> Like a tomato grown in soil that has had the micronutrients  
> depleted from
> intensive agriculture, that’s why the tomatoes in the store taste like
> cardboard.  There is a Word Health Organization report on  
> micronutrient
> malnutrition, and it concludes that countries with big corportate farm
> operations like monsanto ADM...ect. suffer from these diet  
> deficincies. The
> Amazonians were most likely getting at least copper and Zinc from  
> human
> feces, and likely got quiet a few from ash, and other sources.  I have
> developed a micronutrient fertilizer working a the Southern Utah  
> University
> greenhouse and I have been soaking my biochar in it. I have been  
> selling it
> to the local nursuries around Sandy Oregon. My experiments in Utah
> Washington, Germany have all yeilded great results in a variety of  
> different
> types of soils.  It produces an organic mirical grow. Auf Wiedersen,
>
>
> Paul Elmore
> 503 - 668 - 6507
> Greenjack
> "Where acient agriculture meets modern science"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org
> [mailto:terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of David  
> Yarrow
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2008 2:05 PM
> To: Jon C. Frank; Terrapreta
> Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Caution on Urine
>
> my suggestion is to treat urine as a microbial food and stimulant,  
> not as a
> plant food.
>
> for a green & peaceful planet,
> David Yarrow
> 44 Gilligan Rd, E Greenbush, NY 12061
> www.championtrees.org
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> www.SeaAgri.com
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jon C. Frank" <jon.frank at aglabs.com>
> To: "Terrapreta" <terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2008 1:46 PM
> Subject: [Terrapreta] Caution on Urine
>
>
>> Just a quick caution on using urine.  While useful for supplying  
>> soluble
>> nutrients, urine should not be over applied.  The over application of
>> urine
>> will cause an increase in nitrogen uptake by plants.  It needs to  
>> be used
>> in
>> diluted form and also used with more carbonaceous products.  When  
>> cattle
>> urinate in a pasture the center area may die but the surrounding  
>> area will
>> be lush green with excessive nitrogen.  Cattle never prefer to eat  
>> this
>> because it is poor quality just the same as if excess commercial  
>> nitrogen
>> was applied.  The over application of nitrogen leads to poor quality
>> produce/forages etc. even when coming from natural/organic sources.
>>
>> Using it to saturate charcoal seems quite ideal.
>>
>> Jon
>>
>>
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