[Terrapreta] Terrapreta Digest, Vol 13, Issue 26
Allan Yeomans
aj at yeomansplow.com.au
Sun Feb 24 02:22:45 CST 2008
Our PRIORITY ONE environmental policy must be to stop climate change.
February
24, 2008
CUBAN EMBARGO.
BIG- OIL and GLOBAL WARMING
The United States trades with Communist China, so why not Cuba? There is a
sick but logical answer. Sherlock Holmes said "first look for he who will
benefit", or "Cui Bono" which is another way of saying the same thing.
Cuba's main business is growing sugarcane. Using sugar is the cheapest and
most practical way to produce ethanol. Every year from an acre of sugarcane
you can produce 750 gallons of ready-to-use ethanol. (And it can be done
organically.)
If Cuba was allowed to trade freely with the US it could supply ethanol to
US motorists at half the price you now pay for gasoline.
When you look at the figures for Cuba you find that 75% of Cuba is sugar
cane country. That's like a paddock one hundred and seventy miles square. It
would produce enough to continuously run 30 million cars on straight
ethanol. Or 35 million cars on E85, which a lot of modern American cars are
designed for.
It is thus very logical for the oil conglomerates and the Middle East oil
states to insist, and demand, and to connive, to insure that the Cuban
Embargo continues indefinitely.
Other things have also been "arranged" that suit the oil companies. There is
a 2.5% duty on imported oil and imported ethanol into the US. So on face
value that seems fair but, (and it's a big "but") if you import ethanol you
pay an additional 54 cents duty on every gallon imported.
Corn farmers and the oil conglomerates in the US are now subsidized to
produce and blend ethanol from corn. The costs have been astronomical and
the impact is that a just a tiny 1.5% of US fuel is derived from corn
farming. Coincidently, the oil industries' corn ethanol subsidies appear
more than sufficient to offset the 1.5% loss in oil sales revenues.
WHAT TO DO ? First eliminate the 54 cents penalty on imported ethanol
from anywhere in the World. Secondly, eliminate the trade embargo on Cuba -
at least on sugar and ethanol. And lastly, because it would be political
impossible to cancel, maintain the corn subsidies to American farmers.
Allan Yeomans
(Author of PRIORITY ONE Together We Can Beat Global Warming
See also Allexperts.com for other Yeomans
comments)
If you agree, then email this to a dozen friends.
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> 1. Suggestions for 15 minute presentation? (Green Waste Recycle Yard)
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> Thermochemical Biochar (Erich Knight)
> 3. Re: viable idea? (Tom Miles)
> 4. Re: Suggestions for 15 minute presentation? (Tom Miles)
> 5. Re: viable idea? (Richard Haard)
> 6. The Pyrolysis Challenge: Request for Expressions of Interest
> (David Hirst .com)
> 7. Re: Suggestions for 15 minute presentation? (Douglas Clayton)
> 8. Sugar as asoil amendment/fertiliser? (Michael Bailes)
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> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 13:21:04 -0800
> From: "Green Waste Recycle Yard" <info at GreenWasteRecycleYard.com>
> Subject: [Terrapreta] Suggestions for 15 minute presentation?
> To: <terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>
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> Hi all,
>
> My business, Green Waste Recycle Yard, will be an exhibitor Feb 29th at
> the
> Bay-Friendly Landscaping & Gardening Conference in the San Francisco area:
>
> http://www.stopwaste.org/home/index.asp?page=787
>
> While our exhibit will be promoting our own services and products, I will
> also use this opportunity to introduce the concept of biochar to an
> excellent target audience of several hundred "green" public & private
> sector
> professionals, landscape architects, designers, contractors, and home
> gardeners.
>
> I have a 15 minute slot for a presentation, in which I will present our
> business, and also what we hope to do with biochar. While there are tons
> of
> materials out there on the subject, I'm looking for the most effective
> materials (graphs, photographs, diagrams, etc.) for an 5-10 minute
> "elevator
> pitch" to an audience new to the concept. I want to sketch out the basic
> ideas and potential of biochar, both as might apply to their own pursuits
> as
> well as for the greater good. The purpose is evangelize, to get them
> intrigued enough to research and follow new developments on their own, and
> further virally get the word out.
>
> I'm looking for your recommendations for appropriate materials. Some
> examples:
>
> - side by side plant/root growth control/char photos, such as Robert
> Flanagan's
> - photos of organisms growing on biochar, showing how it works
> - simple figures/graph on increased water retention and reduced emissions
> of greenhouse gases (i.e. nitrous oxide)
> - a one page list of URLs for Terra Preta reading (or a URL with such a
> list)
> - a 5-10 minute PowerPoint presentation that already has compiled simple
> clear graphs, photos, etc.
>
> I'd appreciate keeping your suggestions simple, appropriate for an average
> intelligent person with no previous familiarity with biochar. I don't want
> to overwhelm them with complexity or encyclopedic kitchen-sink resources.
> These should simply pique their interest, and give them easy clear next
> steps to find out a bit more.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Bernie
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> From: "Erich Knight" <erichjknight at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Terrapreta] National Biomass Producers Association
> Demenstration of Thermochemical Biochar
> To: Terrapreta at bioenergylists.org
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> NBPA to demonstrate cellulosic ethanol productionFrom the March 2008
> Issue<http://www.biomassmagazine.com/issue.jsp?issue_id=82>
>
>
> "The thermochemical process also produces a byproduct called biochar,
> which
> serves as a viable soil amendment with important fertilizer properties
> that
> could offset farmers' high fertilizer costs. Due to the mobility of
> on-site
> production, logistical issues associated with feedstock collection and
> transportation would also be eliminated. "It's what's going to work best
> for
> everyone involved, including the wildlife," Cahoj said. "It brings a lot
> of
> variables into the picture that people need to be thinking about, and the
> time to act is now."
>
> http://www.biomassmagazine.com/article.jsp?article_id=1468
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>
> Cheers ,
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> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 19:05:19 -0800
> From: "Tom Miles" <tmiles at trmiles.com>
> Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] viable idea?
> To: "'Terrapreta'" <terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>
> Message-ID: <000001c87436$9a4d1ca0$cee755e0$@com>
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>
>
> We can save the world, but figuring it out is the challenge. It will take
> more than char and manure to feed 6 billion people but research and
> experimentation to improve soil productivity using these tools can help. I
> think that is Lehmann's message in the article. I don't think that
> challenge
> just belongs to research organizations. Charcoal is made all over the
> world. If the agronomic value of combinations of charcoal and nutrient
> sources is demonstrated then individuals can make choices about using some
> char to produce more food. At the very least we can help offset soil
> carbon
> loss in all countries.
>
>
>
> Maybe the recipes are more complex. As Richard points out it is probably
> more complicated than simply adding charcoal. It is similar to the plaggen
> (peat based) anthrosols that were constructed over a long period as the
> soil
> micromorphological studies have shown with some fairly involved steps of
> preparation, burning and blending manures, bones, etc. These soils ceased
> to
> be constructed when fertilizer was introduced.
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org
> [mailto:terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Jim Joyner
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 9:50 AM
> To: Richard Haard
> Cc: Terrapreta
> Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] viable idea?
>
>
>
> Richard,
>
> Not sure what to make of the report -- it's got some really strange
> comments
> in it (maybe just out of context) -- but it does seem the notion of TP
> saving the world is a bit premature. A bit like counting ones chicken
> before
> they hatch.
>
> Jim
>
> Richard Haard wrote:
>
> This report (summary statement below ) from May 15, 2007 Scientific
> American
> sums up the opinion that Larry and I share. We both think that dumping
> charcoal on soil does not make terra preta. Our interest is to work on
> enrichment culturing beginning this spring, sort of like to highly
> aerobic
> system used to make compost tea only tailored to getting charcoal and
> charcoal/substrate\ acclimated to enhance the naturally occurring biota .
>
>
> <http://www.sciam.com/article.cfm?id=5670236C-E7F2-99DF-3E2163B9FB144E40&pag
> e=3> Special Report: Inspired by Ancient Amazonians, a Plan to Convert
> Trash
> into Environmental Treasure
>
> But is it Viable?
>
>
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> From: "Tom Miles" <tmiles at trmiles.com>
> Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Suggestions for 15 minute presentation?
> To: "'Green Waste Recycle Yard'" <info at GreenWasteRecycleYard.com>,
> <terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>
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>
> Bernie,
>
>
>
>
>
> International Biochar Initiative has done a great job of presenting
> Biochar
> concepts illustrated with pictures.
>
> http://www.biochar-international.org/home.html
>
>
>
> It seems to me that Steven Joseph has done couple of good recent
> presentations such as Bring Biochar to Market, Ames 2007
>
> http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/taxonomy/term/259/9
>
>
>
> I also like Julie Major's (Cornell) presentations
>
> http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/taxonomy/term/341/9
>
>
>
> Great opportunity. Thanks for the effort.
>
>
>
> Tom
>
>
>
>
>
> From: terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org
> [mailto:terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Green Waste
> Recycle Yard
> Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2008 1:21 PM
> To: terrapreta at bioenergylists.org
> Subject: [Terrapreta] Suggestions for 15 minute presentation?
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> My business, Green Waste Recycle Yard, will be an exhibitor Feb 29th at
> the
> Bay-Friendly Landscaping & Gardening Conference in the San Francisco area:
>
>
>
> http://www.stopwaste.org/home/index.asp?page=787
>
>
>
> While our exhibit will be promoting our own services and products, I will
> also use this opportunity to introduce the concept of biochar to an
> excellent target audience of several hundred "green" public & private
> sector
> professionals, landscape architects, designers, contractors, and home
> gardeners.
>
>
>
> I have a 15 minute slot for a presentation, in which I will present our
> business, and also what we hope to do with biochar. While there are tons
> of
> materials out there on the subject, I'm looking for the most effective
> materials (graphs, photographs, diagrams, etc.) for an 5-10 minute
> "elevator
> pitch" to an audience new to the concept. I want to sketch out the basic
> ideas and potential of biochar, both as might apply to their own pursuits
> as
> well as for the greater good. The purpose is evangelize, to get them
> intrigued enough to research and follow new developments on their own, and
> further virally get the word out.
>
>
>
> I'm looking for your recommendations for appropriate materials. Some
> examples:
>
>
>
> - side by side plant/root growth control/char photos, such as Robert
> Flanagan's
>
> - photos of organisms growing on biochar, showing how it works
>
> - simple figures/graph on increased water retention and reduced emissions
> of greenhouse gases (i.e. nitrous oxide)
>
> - a one page list of URLs for Terra Preta reading (or a URL with such a
> list)
>
> - a 5-10 minute PowerPoint presentation that already has compiled simple
> clear graphs, photos, etc.
>
>
>
> I'd appreciate keeping your suggestions simple, appropriate for an average
> intelligent person with no previous familiarity with biochar. I don't want
> to overwhelm them with complexity or encyclopedic kitchen-sink resources.
> These should simply pique their interest, and give them easy clear next
> steps to find out a bit more.
>
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
>
> Bernie
>
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> Date: Wed, 20 Feb 2008 21:39:23 -0800
> From: Richard Haard <richrd at nas.com>
> Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] viable idea?
> To: "Tom Miles" <tmiles at trmiles.com>
> Cc: Terrapreta <terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>
> Message-ID: <EB78AAAF-9607-444B-811E-9F0B1468D8E3 at nas.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>
> Tom
>
> Ah yes - In my reading over the last few weeks I have the impression
> that this bio-char realm is a bit like an Escher drawing where the
> goldfish is peering out at the world of air. There are the unique soil
> conditions in the humid tropics and the out of control slash and burn
> and chemical agriculture. We know that the use of charcoal emulates
> the role of organic matter in soil yet is permanent and that to use it
> in combination with manure, compost have additive beneficial effects.
> In light of this result charcoal is not quite the same as 'true' terra
> preta. But this is not good reason to delay recommending to small
> holder farmers in the moist tropics to utilize slash and char.
>
> Our studies , (here in Bellingham) are academic and most interesting
> as is the challenge to all others who are engaged in this study and
> also to build equipment and processes to make and distribute charcoal.
> In a way, we in the temperate north are isolated from this turmoil of
> natural habitat destruction and connected human displacement. Our
> studies and advocacy for the use of charcoal should also be directed
> to governments, aid organizations and other NGO's to recognize the use
> of charcoal to help farmers in the moist tropics.
>
> Along this line of thinking is the reason behind my mumbling on the
> list last few days on slash and char as I am writing an article for
> our farm quarterly catalog. I am hoping to have a readable article to
> publish to our mailing list readers and also to use to get the
> attention of organizations who are thus far only trying to slow down
> this loss of habitat and promote sustainable forestry. Charcoal needs
> promotion as another tool in their kit, to shorten crop rotation
> times and to reduce dependence on chemical fertilizers. Perhaps also
> to save some rainforest and also sequester some carbon along the way.
>
> Rich H
>
> Also scroll down for a note to Lewis I neglected to forward to TP list.
>
> On Feb 20, 2008, at 7:05 PM, Tom Miles wrote:
>
>>
>> We can save the world, but figuring it out is the challenge. It will
>> take more than char and manure to feed 6 billion people but research
>> and experimentation to improve soil productivity using these tools
>> can help. I think that is Lehmann?s message in the article. I don?t
>> think that challenge just belongs to research organizations.
>> Charcoal is made all over the world. If the agronomic value of
>> combinations of charcoal and nutrient sources is demonstrated then
>> individuals can make choices about using some char to produce more
>> food. At the very least we can help offset soil carbon loss in all
>> countries.
>>
>> Maybe the recipes are more complex. As Richard points out it is
>> probably more complicated than simply adding charcoal. It is similar
>> to the plaggen (peat based) anthrosols that were constructed over a
>> long period as the soil micromorphological studies have shown with
>> some fairly involved steps of preparation, burning and blending
>> manures, bones, etc. These soils ceased to be constructed when
>> fertilizer was introduced.
>>
>> Tom
>
>
> Jim - Below is what I sent to Lewis but neglected to forward to the
> list.
>
> I think these quotes I clipped from the Scientific American article is
> from scientists behaving in the way they are expected. With measured
> skepticism. Their job is to do research, gather data and further
> refine our knowledge on charcoal in soil and terra preta. At the same
> time farmers in the humid tropics where they have difficulty
> maintaining soil OM, holding nutrients in excessive rainfall ought to
> be informed about this slash and char practice.
>
> I agree with what Lewis stated. Baseline seems to be that charcoal is
> beneficial in these conditions. Why wait to move ahead. Especially
> when onsite carbonization with smoldering fires can accomplish this
> process for small holder farmers.
>
>
> On Feb 20, 2008, at 9:50 AM, Jim Joyner wrote:
>> Richard,
>>
>> Not sure what to make of the report -- it's got some really strange
>> comments in it (maybe just out of context) -- but it does seem the
>> notion of TP saving the world is a bit premature. A bit like
>> counting ones chicken before they hatch.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Richard Haard wrote:
>>>
>>> This report (summary statement below ) from May 15, 2007 Scientific
>>> American sums up the opinion that Larry and I share. We both think
>>> that dumping charcoal on soil does not make terra preta. Our
>>> interest is to work on enrichment culturing beginning this spring,
>>> sort of like to highly aerobic system used to make compost tea only
>>> tailored to getting charcoal and charcoal/substrate\ acclimated to
>>> enhance the naturally occurring biota .
>>>
>>> Special Report: Inspired by Ancient Amazonians, a Plan to Convert
>>> Trash into Environmental Treasure
>>>
>>> But is it Viable?
>>>
>>
>
>
> Perhaps I chose the wrong phrase clipped from the SA article. There
> room for more basic research. Yes, because terra preta nova does not
> match terra preta. Perhaps as they said in the article to make terra
> preta it is all part of a process in the moist tropics that may take
> 100 years or more to occur.
>
> It is understood there is advantage to use charcoal as soil additive
> and that in combination with other materials, compost, fertilizer crop
> performance is further improved. Carbon is sequestered and studies are
> showing certain chemical and biological properties.
>
> As I stated in my posting on the previous day slash and char should be
> promoted as a best agricultural practice for the conversion of
> agricultural waste, timber slash. Support of this concept by
> governments, TA organizations and environmental advocates would lead
> to a reduction in clearing new land with shortened fallow periods. The
> larger problem here is the make and sell <charcoal> versus make and
> use <charcoal> as soil additive. This thought is what is leading me
> to low tech smoldering reduction of om in fields.
>
> Rich H
> On Feb 20, 2008, at 2:21 AM, MMBTUPR at aol.com wrote:
>> from Lewis L Smith
>>
>>
>> As a veteran of Dr. Alexander's "energy cane/energy grass" program,
>> I am impressed once again that we need to define a variety of
>> alternative inputs [ agrichar #1, agrichar #2 ... agrichar N ] and
>> begin testing them on 50 square-foot plots with random block design.
>>
>> Right now we are thrashing around, because everyone has a different
>> idea of what agrichar is but few people are defining his or her
>> version in replicable form.
>>
>> Cordially. ###
>>
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> Date: Thu, 21 Feb 2008 09:27:39 -0000
> From: "David Hirst .com" <david at davidhirst.com>
> Subject: [Terrapreta] The Pyrolysis Challenge: Request for Expressions
> of Interest
> To: "Tera Preta " <terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>
> Message-ID: <008701c8746c$00eb74e0$6601a8c0 at DavidHomeXP>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
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> I am not sure this falls into the TP arena, but it is possible that a
> proposal about
> getting usable oil out of a biochar formation process might be of
> interest.
>
> But biochar may well not have percolated this organisation yet.
>
>
>
> The Pyrolysis Challenge: Request for Expressions of Interest
>
> The Carbon Trust is seeking Expressions of Interest in developing a
> commercially viable
> pyrolysis oil upgrading process, through applied research and development.
> The Trust is
> planning to make a ?5-6m investment to support this project. Full details
> of the process
> for submission of an Expression of Interest can be found
> <http://www.carbontrust.co.uk/about/presscentre/080218_Biofuels_Challenge.htm>
> on the
> Carbon Trust website. Please contact Dr Robert Trezona on
> pipeline at carbontrust.co.uk if
> you have any queries. The deadline for applications is 7 April 2008.
>
> David
>
> David Hirst
>
> email: <mailto:david at davidhirst.com> david at davidhirst.com
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> From: Douglas Clayton <dnclayton at wildblue.net>
> Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Suggestions for 15 minute presentation?
> To: "Green Waste Recycle Yard" <info at GreenWasteRecycleYard.com>
> Cc: terrapreta at bioenergylists.org
> Message-ID: <2ccdf94b1429ec1ff62311b46d4aed13 at wildblue.net>
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> Bernie,
>
> I have a PowerPoint I put together for last summer's NOFA (natural
> organic farmers assoc.) conference I'd be glad to share with you.
> Perhaps you could find something useful in there but I've got to say
> introducing the concepts in 5 or 10 minutes sounds like a major
> challenge! In a couple of weeks Julie Major from Cornell is
> presenting at the Ecological Landscaping Association annual conference
> in Springfield MA and I see Tom Miles has just put the link to her
> PowerPoint up to the group. You must check that out if you haven't
> already.
>
> Julie Major, David Yarrow and I will be sharing a display table at the
> ELA conference and I am planning to update my PP and just have it
> running as a continuous loop on an old iMac. You might do the same as
> part of your exhibit. Let me know if you want my PP slides.
>
> Everyone who can make it to the ELA event should. A quick review
> keynotes, sessions and workshops will impress: Michael Mann, John
> Todd, Julie Major, David Yarrow, David Jacke . . . .
> http://www.ecolandscaping.org/conference.html#
>
> Doug
>
>
> On Feb 20, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Green Waste Recycle Yard wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>> ?
>> My business, Green Waste Recycle Yard, will be an exhibitor Feb 29th
>> at the Bay-Friendly Landscaping & Gardening Conference in the San
>> Francisco area:
>> ?
>> http://www.stopwaste.org/home/index.asp?page=787
>> ?
>> While our exhibit will be promoting our own services and products, I
>> will also use this opportunity to introduce the concept of biochar to
>> an excellent target audience of several hundred "green" public &
>> private sector professionals, landscape architects, designers,
>> contractors, and home gardeners.
>> ?
>> I have a 15 minute slot for a presentation, in which I will present
>> our business, and also what we hope to do with biochar. While there
>> are tons of materials out there on the subject, I'm looking for the
>> most effective materials (graphs, photographs, diagrams, etc.) for an
>> 5-10 minute "elevator pitch" to an audience new to the concept. I want
>> to sketch out the basic ideas and potential of biochar, both as might
>> apply to their own pursuits as well as for the greater good. The
>> purpose is evangelize, to get them intrigued enough to research and
>> follow new developments on their own, and further virally get the word
>> out.
>> ?
>> I'm looking for your recommendations for appropriate materials. Some
>> examples:
>> ?
>> ?- side by side plant/root growth?control/char photos, such as Robert
>> Flanagan's
>> ?- photos of organisms growing on biochar, showing how it works
>> ?- simple figures/graph on increased water retention and
>> reduced?emissions of greenhouse gases (i.e. nitrous oxide)
>> ?- a one page list of URLs for Terra Preta?reading (or a URL with such
>> a list)
>> ?- a 5-10 minute PowerPoint presentation that already has compiled
>> simple clear graphs, photos, etc.
>> ?
>> I'd appreciate keeping?your suggestions simple, appropriate for an
>> average intelligent person with no previous familiarity with biochar.
>> I don't want to overwhelm them with complexity or encyclopedic
>> kitchen-sink resources. These should simply pique their interest, and
>> give them easy clear next steps to find out a bit more.
>> ?
>> Thank you.
>> ?
>> Bernie_______________________________________________
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> Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2008 04:48:06 +1100
> From: "Michael Bailes" <michaelangelica at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Terrapreta] Sugar as asoil amendment/fertiliser?
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> <http://www.holistichorse.com/anm/anmviewer.asp?a=188>
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> On the TP List a while ago there was some discussion of sugar as a
> fertiliser/soil amendment.
>
> I just read this Quote:
> "Molasses contains powerful chelating agents. . These. .envelop metal
> atoms. . . cyclic hydroxamic acids. . .The plants from which molasses is
> made presumably use these chelating agents to extract minerals from the
> soil
>
> page148
> *'How to Fossilise your Hamster'* *and other amazing experiments* M O'Hare
> and
>
>> Molasses acts as a soil amendment and is an excellent chelating agent
>> plus
>> providing trace nutrients. Welcome to the Holistic Horse
>> Magazine<http://www.holistichorse.com/anm/anmviewer.asp?a=188>
>>
> --
> Michael the Archangel
>
> "You can fix all the world's problems in a garden. . . .
> Most people don't know that"
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