[Terrapreta] Small matter Re:

Mary Lehmann mlehmann3 at austin.rr.com
Mon Jun 2 12:18:47 CDT 2008


Dr. Lehmann doesn't like his name spelled with one 'n".  I know what  
he means.

Mary Lehmann
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On Jun 2, 2008, at 8:16 AM, Kevin Chisholm wrote:

> Dear Sean
>
> Sean K. Barry wrote:
>> Hi Francoise,
>>
>> So, that first sentence you quoted from me does not count.  You count
>> the one I put the "Maybe ... in front of?
>>
>> Thanks for reading me so correctly.  Ask Dr Steiner or Dr, Lehmann if
>> they were just making up the 290% improvement in plant productivity
>> seen in a single growing season.  Maybe Danny Day exaggerated, too.
>
> I think the spectacular first year results reported by Drs Steiner,
> Lehman, and Day  were as a result of fertilizers added with the char,
> and not the char itself. A fair comparison would be to compare the
> results from the Control Plot, with the results from the Charcoal Only
> plot. In one of Dr. Steiner's Tests, I believe he had test plots as  
> follows:
> Control
> Control + Char
> Control + Compost
> Control + Fertilizer
> Control + Char + Fertilizer
> Control + Compost + Fertilizer
> Control + Compost + Char + Fertilizer.
> etc...
>
> I further believe that they did not expect significant first year
> improvements with the char, but rather, they were looking to  
> demonstrate
> the enhanced nutrient retention characteristics of Char, and they
> expected best results in 3 to 4 years.
>
> Please correct me if I am in error.
>
> Kevin
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> SKB
>>
>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>     *From:* francoise precy <mailto:f.precy at hotmail.co.uk>
>>     *To:* Sean K. Barry <mailto:sean.barry at juno.com> ; Terra Preta
>>     <mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org> ; Michael Bailes
>>     <mailto:michaelangelica at gmail.com>
>>     *Sent:* Sunday, June 01, 2008 11:11 PM
>>     *Subject:* no instantaneousness = no overnight
>>
>>
>>     Hello Sean
>>
>>     "I'm quite sure I never said putting charcoal into soil
>>     "instantaneously" makes it into Terra Preta soil. If you think  
>> so,
>>     then show me the post where I said that.":
>>     Soil-wise, "overnight" = "instantaneous" =unbalanced approach.
>>
>>     Message: 5
>>     Date: Wed, 28 May 2008 21:43:24 -0500
>>     From: "Sean K. Barry"
>>     Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Old native earth ovens.
>>     To: "'Kurt Treutlein'" , "'terra pretta group'"
>>     , "MFH"
>>
>>     Hi Max,
>>
>>     ...
>>     I suspect making Amazon style TP soils would take quite a long
>>     time. Its just a thought though. Maybe the effect could be  
>> made to
>>     happen overnight or in a single growing season with one
>>     application of the "right stuff", too. Who knows?
>>
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