[Terrapreta] Pee and Poo Was: Re: Academies of Science Call Industrialized Countriesto Lead Climate Challenge

[folke Günther]

*Actually, the nutrient content of urine (per volume!) is about the same as
in the faeces.Table on my
homepage<http://www.holon.se/folke/projects/vatpark/Kth/guntha.shtml#table1>.
Moreover, the urine is sterile when it leaves he body (unless you have a
problem with blood-poisoning, but that you ought to be aware of).
But fresh urine is rather concentrated. You should dilute it with about ten
times its volume of water before you use it, in order not to 'burn' the
plants.
I would say that it is a waste of valuable nutrients to pee directly on the
beans. Better is to pee in a bucket with char, an the take the char to put
on the compost or into the soil (for other plants). Then, take the remaining
liquid an give to the beans.The char prefer nitrogen before phosphorus, and
the beans can fix the nitrogen themselves.
FG*

2008/6/11 Kevin Chisholm <kchisholm at ca.inter.net>:

>  Dear Lou
>
> The Western Culture seems to have an irrational phobia against pee and poo.
> I grow a few pole beans every year, just to see how high I can get them. I
> pee on them, and it works. I grew one last year that was more than 20 feet
> tall. Everyone I have told about my "secret" says "You aren't going to eat
> the beans, are you?" Everyone. Yet these same people will eat food grown
> with the benefit of poisonous chemicals.
>
> There is a deeper problem that has to be addressed.
>
> Kevin
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* lou gold <lou.gold at gmail.com>
> *To:* David Yarrow <dyarrow at nycap.rr.com>
> *Cc:* terrapreta at bioenergylists.org
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 11, 2008 4:05 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Terrapreta] Academies of Science Call Industrialized
> Countriesto Lead Climate Challenge
>
> To add to your good words David, I would say that it could be difficult to
> get lay folks to really understand the incredible community of life in
> soils. Perhaps, it would be easier to focus on gaining an understanding that
> the relationship on-top-of and inside-of the earth needs to be reciprocal.
> As a storyteller, I've generally had better success with the concept of
> reciprocity and with the micro hard-to-see realities.
>
> Connecting to the "poo" discussions, I think it's easy to get people to see
> that when waste is returned to the earth properly, that the resulting
> reciprocity is beneficial. "From waste to resource" is an easy to understand
> slogan and I think it could be usefully linked to biochar.
>
> Just some thoughts.
>
> hugs,
>
> lou
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 3:19 PM, David Yarrow <dyarrow at nycap.rr.com>
> wrote:
>
>>  more front line news about the accelerating consensus toward action on
>> climate change.
>>
>> however, still no mention of "carbon-negative", "food footprint" or "soil
>> sequestration", much less likely: "biochar."
>>
>> seems the brightest minds in the highest places still don't have a clear
>> focus on fundamental factors in ecological viability and climate stability:
>> soil fertility, where fertility is not measured as inventory of chemical
>> components, but as a biological community -- the "microbial reef" --
>> invisibly tiny living complexity that inhabits the thin skin of the land and
>> supports all the larger, younger lifeforms.
>>
>> but they're funding the scientists who are piecing the puzzle together
>> again.
>>
>>
>> *G8 Academies of Science
>> Call on Industrialized Countries *
>> *to Lead Climate Challenge
>> *By *Andrew C. Revkin*, *NYTimes*, June 11, 2008
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/06/11/world/11climate.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
>> The scientific academies of 13 countries on Tuesday urged the world to act
>> more forcefully to limit the threat posed by human-driven global warming. In
>> a joint statement, the academies of the Group of 8 industrialized countries
>> -- Britain, Canada, France, Germany, Italy, Japan, Russia and the United
>> States -- and of Brazil, China, India, Mexico and South Africa called on the
>> industrialized countries to lead a 'transition to a low-carbon society' and
>> aggressively move to limit impacts from changes in climate that are already
>> under way and impossible to stop.
>> The statement [PDF, 2 pp<http://www.nationalacademies.org/includes/climatechangestatement.pdf>],
>> posted by the Nation Academy of Science in the United States, urged the
>> Group of 8 countries to move beyond last year's pledge to consider halving
>> global emissions of greenhouse gases by 2050 and 'make maximum efforts' to
>> reach this target."
>>
>> http://www.nationalacademies.org/includes/climatechangestatement.pdf
>>
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