[Terrapreta] CO2 in the oceans

David Yarrow dyarrow at nycap.rr.com
Sat Jun 21 00:13:44 CDT 2008


al gore is a politician possibly evolving into a genuine statesman.  he's no 
scientist, altho he has personal access to leading scientists worldwide.  he 
might mis-state, over-state, misinterpret and stretch the data, but i doubt 
he would stick his neck out so far in public based on a lie, much less a 
series of lies.  only a fool like george bush would lie, knowing full world 
the world's leading scientists were listening to every word, ready to pounce 
on the least misrepresentation.  and i certainly doubt he would have 
received the nobel prize for shoddy, much less fraudulent representation of 
authentic scientific data.

but james hansen is a scientist.  a NASA scientist.  a specialist in 
atmospheric science.  an expert in global climate studies.  a scientist who 
has endured decades of peer-reviewed research and publications, and risen to 
the very top of his field and profession.  a scientist who has spoken 
sharply, alarmingly, extensively, and honestly about this global climate 
change challenge, knowing full well a hostile and malicious administration 
in the white wants to shut him up and silence any truthful communication 
(and hard data from serious field investigations).

i seriously doubt james hansen would lie, distort data, or engage in 
deception.  rather, james hansen carefully avoided taking a position on 
climate change for several years while he studied the data and investigated 
the various theories.  james hansen waited until he had hard data to back up 
his position, and has the courage and concern to go nose-to-nose with his 
white house censors.  and to even take his case about climate and censorship 
to a 60 minutes TV broadcast.

i trust what james hansen says manyfold more than al gore.

and i trust all gore many more fold more than george bush, dick cheney or 
any in that oligarchy.  or is it a cabal?  or a cartel?

personally, i started watching the CO2 curve in 1975, and by 1990 i had 
enough data to convince me climate change will be the #1 issue of the 21st 
century.

so, like a kid on a long car ride, i keep asking, "are we there yet?"  are 
we at a point of agreement yet?  are we ready to get dead serious, roll up 
our sleeves, wade in and take this huge challenge on?  the longer we wait, 
deny and delay, the bigger the problem will be.  for our grandchildren, this 
problem will be a question of their very survival.

next weekend in vermont i start teaching farmers how to make and use their 
own biochar.  next year i start teaching them how to capture and use the 
gases and liquids cooked out of the char.

for a green & peaceful planet,
David Yarrow
44 Gilligan Rd, E Greenbush, NY 12061
www.championtrees.org
www.OnondagaLakePeaceFestival.org
www.farmandfood.org
www.SeaAgri.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "F. Marc de Piolenc" <piolenc at archivale.com>
To: <terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2008 10:29 AM
Subject: [Terrapreta] CO2 in the oceans
>
> Ice core data clearly shows that mean temperature determines CO2
> concentration, and not the reverse. There's a lag of about 800 years
> between a temperature change and a corresponding change in CO2
> concentration. Those two curves - CO2 and temperature - are the ones
> used by Gore in An Inconvenient Truth...only he shifts them in time
> so that they appear to coincide. Not the only lie in that movie, but
> certainly the crucial one.




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