[Terrapreta] Scientific American Story on Charcoal Decomposition

Edward Someus edward at terrenum.net
Sun May 11 11:26:20 CDT 2008


LLOYD, 

Thanx for notice.  

The pdf scientific paper I have sent to Folke + cc TP net was the original
publication and correctly specified, specifically aiming the evaluation of
forest wild fires in boreal forest, which 10 years programme results are
certainly interesting and of high technical and scientific value. 

The original discussion started up from an other web article from an
journalist, who in a sensationalist manner made article  that would likely
leave with the uninitiated reader with the impression that generally
charcoal in soil was "a bad thing", while did not mentioned that apple need
to be compared to apple, and boreal forest soils are different than degraded
agro soils. 

This is also a publicity questions, as sometimes newspaper people like to
make "sensations", which in wrong understanding might damage the public
acceptance of an otherwise good thing. 

The TP issue need all correct and scientifically justified publications and
statements, based on the wide diversity and world wide true value  field
tests in many variations under different climatic, soil and cultivation /
practice conditions, which covers up the true status of the programme, all
in order to improve public acceptance and highlight the true value of the TP
case, including SWOTs, strengths, weakness, opportunities and threats.

   
Sincerely yours: Edward Someus (environmental engineer)
HOMEPAGE:  http://www.terrenum.net   
EMAIL 1:        edward at terrenum.net
EMAIL 2:        Edward.someus at gmail.com
3R Environmental Technologies Ltd. 
ADDRESS: H-1222 Budapest, Szechenyi 59, Hungary
TEL handy:  +(36-20) 201 7557
TEL / FAX:   +(36-1) 424 0224
TEL SKYPE phone via computer:  Edward Someus
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nvirocleantech.com 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: Lloyd Helferty
Date: 2008.05.11. 14:35:34
To: 'Edward Someus';  'folke Günther'
Cc: Terrapreta at bioenergylists.org
Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Scientific American Story on Charcoal
Decomposition
 
I note that the author only indicated that using Charcoal (black C) for
enhancing ecosystem C sequestration ... can be "partially offset by its
capacity to stimulate loss of native soil C".  The important point is that
the carbon sequestration capacity of Char is only Partially Offset by losses
elsewhere (from humus) ~ which would mean the net carbon sequestration
potential is still positive.
    
    Lloyd Helferty
    Thornhill

 



From: terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org
[mailto:terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Edward Someus
Sent: May 4, 2008 11:47 PM
To: folke Günther
Cc: Terrapreta at bioenergylists.org
Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Scientific American Story on Charcoal
Decomposition
Importance: High


Dear Folke, 
 
Pls find encl the publication text PDF.  Need to be studied more in-depthly
and discussed later on. The  department of forest ecology and management,
SLU (Swedish University of Agricultural Sciences) Umea  Professor David
Wardle, Professor  Marie-Charlotte Nilsson and  Professor  Olle Zackrisson
are high science Colleagues, and such rarely 10 long years executed study is
of value and should be taken very seriously.
 
The 10 year study - in relation to the evaluation of forest wild fires - is
executed in the Boreal forest sites in northern Sweden humus rich forest
soils  with high "dosis" 50/50 mixtures and 100% blank. The conditions and
the scenario for wild fire boreal forest is very much different than for
AGRO TP, which agricultural adaptation may also widely variate at different
places and cultivation practices world wide. 
 
The industrialized production soil-char composite products  I develop is a
microbiologically pre-mobilized organic/inorganic complex fertilizers with
combined effects, with successful dosis 400 kg/ha up to 1000 kg/ha in
granulated form with consideration 20 cm top soil.  At this moment we have
wide soil and climatic tests ongoing in Italy, The Netherlands, Germany,
Israel, UK and Hungary. 
 
I have distributed the publication to my Colleagues at different soil
science groups at UK, NL, DE, IT Universities and for experience / knowledge
exchange I will make follow up and direct discussion with the SLU Professors
as well. 
 
However, KEVIN may have right: "Reading between the lines of the article,
one could guess at the general content of the Paper, but the article was
presented in a shallow, sensationalist manner that would likely leave with
the uninitiated reader with the impression that charcoal in soil was "a bad
thing." "


KEEP IN TOUCH.   
 
   
Sincerely yours: Edward Someus (environmental engineer)
HOMEPAGE:  http://www.terrenum.net   
EMAIL 1:        edward at terrenum.net
EMAIL 2:        edward.someus at gmail.com
3R Environmental Technologies Ltd. 
ADDRESS: H-1222 Budapest, Szechenyi 59, Hungary
TEL handy:  +(36-20) 201 7557
TEL / FAX:   +(36-1) 424 0224
TEL SKYPE phone via computer:  Edward Someus
3R TERRACARBON:   http://www.terrenum.net 
3R CLEANCOAL ENERGY:   http://www.vertustechnologies.com  http://www
nvirocleantech.com 
-------Original Message-------
 
From: folke Günther
Date: 2008.05.04. 18:02:50
To: Edward Someus
Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Scientific American Story on Charcoal
Decomposition
 
Do you have the pdf? Could you send it to me?
FG



 
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