[Terrapreta] DOes charcoal absorb Glyphosphate?

[Sean K. Barry]

Hi Max,

You say:
However, charcoal is ineffective against metals, Na, K, alcohols, glycols, acids, and alkalis." Its use is also widespread amongst animal farmers. 

There has of recent been discussion and concern on this list about whether Roundup (Glyphosphate) will be absorbed by charcoal and still remain effective.  I do not know the chemistry of this, but is it possible that your statement above relating to glycols may be an answer that NO Glyphosphate will not be absorbed by charcoal?   I don't know who could answer this really.  Maybe is just needs to be tested.  Should I pour some roundup onto soil containing charcoal and see if it will never grow anything ever again?  If you pour Roundup on bare soil it won't stop weed seeds from growing.  It has to be poured on the plant leaves themselves and it "wears out" its effectiveness over time.

Monsanto is a French company (US ,too), but it bring to mind a Michael Caine line in the Mike Myers movie ....   "There are two things I can't stand; intolerance for other cultures and the French! (Dutch)"

Regards,

SKB
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: MFH<mailto:mfh01 at bigpond.net.au> 
  To: 'David Yarrow'<mailto:dyarrow at nycap.rr.com> ; terrapreta at bioenergylists.org<mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org> 
  Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 3:56 AM
  Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] why is carbon black?


  Interesting.

  Given the current propensity for litigation it's reasonable to assume that
  the manufacturers of the Solo knapsacks can back this up.

  Activated charcoal is used to absorb poisons in people, e.g. " Activated
  charcoal is the treatment of choice to prevent absorption of the poison. It
  is usually administered when the patient is in the emergency room. However,
  charcoal is ineffective against metals, Na, K, alcohols, glycols, acids, and
  alkalis." Its use is also widespread amongst animal farmers. 

  Does it adsorb or absorb glyphosphate? And does it "neutralise" or simply
  adsorb and then eliminate the poisons from the body during the normal waste
  cycle?  I'd tend to think the latter.

  Max H


  -----Original Message-----
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  [mailto:terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of David Yarrow
  Sent: Tuesday, 27 May 2008 7:15 AM
  To: terrapreta at bioenergylists.org<mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>
  Subject: [Terrapreta] why is carbon black?

  i am always amused when affirmations of truth come from unexpected, often 
  from "the other side."

  so, i bought a solo backpack syrayer so i can carry around a reasonable 
  supply of liquid sea minerals, seaweed, EM, and compost tea solutions to 
  spray on soil, vegetation, piles of biomass, and tree trunks.  i will devote

  most of this year to spraying my 1.3 acres, but i'd like to visit a few 
  champion trees and old growth forests for special treatments.  and every 
  batch of fresh biochar will get sprayed and steam-treated.

  anyway, i'm reading several pages of fine print instructions.  one section 
  describes procedures to rinse the tank after reach use, and the need for 
  special handling, disposal and training when using hazardous chemicals. 
  when using the backpack sprayer for herbicide, the instruction say that to 
  remove any residue of herbicide from the tank and pump, put a dilute 
  solution of activated charcoal dust in the tank, pump it through the 
  nozzzle, then let it sit in the tank, pump and hose for a minimum time. 
  then rinse with clean water.

  so, charcoal is the remedy to soak up and remove any biotoxic oily residues 
  such as herbicides.

  hmmm....  i wonder if we can do that in soils????????

  where else?

  what else can this black carbon do?

  anyone want to spin black carbon into fiber?

  for a green & peaceful planet,
  David Yarrow
  44 Gilligan Rd, E Greenbush, NY 12061
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