[Terrapreta] Sustained Biochar

Fri Aug 31 12:52:55 EDT 2007

Hi Jeff,

Off base?  Greenhouse gases (GHGs) most predominantly CO2 are in fact causing Global Climatic Changes;  these include Global Warming (GW) and the potential sinking of the northen hemisphere back into a new Ice Age, BOTH!  Human activity has increased the concentration of CO2 in the atmosphere by nearly double from what it was in pre-industrial times.  The plants and the oceans do absorb enormous amounts of CO2, but they are not keeping up with the increases humans are putting into the atmosphere.  The concentrations of GHG are steadily going up, up, up.  Nature is not stabilizing them.  The ocean level is increasing, measurably.
There is profound evidence for the huge changes.  Nine of the ten hottest years on record occurred in the last 11 years (recent heating worldwide, huh? a.k.a. Global Warming).   There intensity changes in weather; like the deep droughts in Africa and the huge mega-hurricanes, like Katrina and Dean (Global Climatic Change).

Positive feedback cycle: the oceans absorb the increased heat.  As they do this, they will begin to release more CO2 +> which will increase the heat.

Positive feedback cycle: the Arctic/and Antarctic ice is melting on the outer edges that are closer to the equator.  The melting opens up more ocean water,  Ice reflects heat, but ocean water absorbs heat.  As the ice continues to melt, it will melt faster.

Positive feedback cycle:  the Arctic northern part of Canada, Alaska, and Asia all contain permafrost,  which contains enormous amounts of frozen Methane-hydrate.  As the permafrost melts, it releases lots of methane, which increase the GHG effect and causes more permafrost to melt.

These are ALL well documented as occurring now.  Human caused Global Climate Changes.

Take a look as these pages and learn some more about GHGs, GW, and Anthropogenically "Forced" Global Climatic Change, Thomas:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gases<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenhouse_gases>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Methane>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrous_oxide<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nitrous_oxide>

Regards,

SKB
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jeff Davis<mailto:jeff0124 at velocity.net> 
  To: terrapreta<mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org> 
  Sent: Friday, August 31, 2007 12:44 AM
  Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Sustained Biochar

  I'm not the expert on it but as I recall CO2 doesn't cause GW. GW increases 
  CO2 in the atmosphere.

  The GW is from sun flares or something.

  Only 30 (about) years ago the scientists where crying about an ice age coming 
  but now they are crying GW. Hey, I remember that one!!!

  The plants will take up the extra CO2 produced.

  If you figure out the volume of the biosphere and the volume of the gas we 
  produce it is a minor amount.

  Sea level is not increasing.

  As you can see I'm doing a poor job of this but it's on that order.

  Jeff

  Sean wrote:
  > Hi Jeff,
  >
  > "Conservatism is just an attempted justification for hypocrisy and greed." 
  > We don't hear that enough do we?
  >
  > Where? From whom did you ever see facts or figures to dismiss global
  > warming as non-existent, not a "real problem", over-blown, or incorrect? 
  > I've never heard anything evidentiary out of the nay-sayers.  All I've ever
  > heard is name-calling and propaganda.
  >
  > What if I just called the GW nay-sayers just a bunch of poopey
  > "Non-Believers!!!!?"  ... or, "scaredy-cats", the "head in the sand bunch"
  > or "head up ass crowd"?  Could I join the ranks of them's with these
  > powerful, non-scientific arguments, that flap the "Our Creator" and "God
  > has a will" stuff as the basis for their positions.  Would that work for
  > me?
  >
  > SKB
  >
  >
  >   ----- Original Message -----
  >   From: Jeff Davis<mailto:jeff0124 at velocity.net<mailto:jeff0124 at velocity.net>>
  >   To: Terrapreta<mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org<mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>>
  >   Sent: Thursday, August 30, 2007 8:43 PM
  >   Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Sustained Biochar
  >
  >   >   I don't buy into the hysteria about global warming.  Even if it is
  >   > actually happening it is not the issue of concern.
  >
  >   The above statement has been voice a lot and people come up with
  >   reasons/figures why. .....
  >
  >   It's hard form me to NOT think that we are causing GW but I wish I knew
  >   for sure.
  >
  >   Sure SEEMS to be more reasons/facts? for GW than for no GW.
  >
  >
  >   Jeff
  >
  >
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  >
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