[Terrapreta] torrefaction vs. Carbonization --------- Char Hydrophobic / Hydrophilic characters

[Kevin Chisholm]

Dear Sean

Sean K. Barry wrote:
> Hi Edward,
>  
> I've read what you said here and it brings me to ask a question.  The 
> original makers of Terra Preta soil in the Amazon did not have the 
> kind of tools that you have to make charcoal.  Clearly, they (all of 
> them) could not have come up with the same "innovative carbonization 
> thermal process" that you have developed.  So, the question I have for 
> you is ... "How could they have may charcoal suitable for TP and what 
> process did they use?"  They are the only ones who actually did 
> succeed (provably so) in making Terra Preta soils work.  And another 
> question I have for you ... Are you absolutely sure that the residual 
> tars left on conventional low temperature charcoal are toxic to all 
> living things; toxic to all animals, plants, and/or all soil 
> microorganisms?

How can you sensibly ask such a question like this when your position is 
that there is no such thing as truth, fact, and absolutes, but only 
probability?

Kevin
>  
> Regards,
>  
> SKB
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Edward Someus <mailto:edward at terrenum.net>
>     *To:* Nikolaus Foidl <mailto:nfoidl at desa.com.bo> ; Gerald Van
>     Koeverden <mailto:vnkvrdn at yahoo.ca> ; Sean K. Barry
>     <mailto:sean.barry at juno.com>
>     *Cc:* terrapreta at bioenergylists.org
>     <mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>
>     *Sent:* Saturday, December 08, 2007 11:42 PM
>     *Subject:* Re: [Terrapreta] torrefaction vs. Carbonization
>     --------- Char Hydrophobic / Hydrophilic characters
>
>     *TECHNICAL NOTICE ===== Char Hydrophobic / Hydrophilic characters* 
>      
>     It is depending on process conditions. Usually the low efficient
>     thermal processes are leaving high % organic residuals
>     (hydrophobic tars) behind,  which makes them unsuitable for TP.
>     Most chars are for energy (where tar residuals are positively
>     utilized) , not only because it is higher priced, but these
>     hydrophobic chars are not suitable for soil application, not to
>     talk about the tar residuals high toxicity for soil life.
>      
>     *My char I am producing is hydrophilic as my innovative
>     carbonization thermal process has been specifically developed for
>     soil adaptation application. *
>      
>      
>
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