[Terrapreta] NZ leading the way

[lou gold]

Hi All,

I also have found a deep resonance between my religious beliefs (a
syncretism of Christian, Amazonian  Indian and African nature spirit ways)
and Terra Preta.

One of it's most profound aspects for me is that -- like Jesus -- Terra
Preta completely frees us from any guilt, saying only that a GREAT earthly
rapture of abundance follows our rebirth into a reciprocity of heaven and
earth. I can easily understand a Terra Preta civilization as the much
promised "New Jerusalem" in which "Thy will be done on earth as it is in
heaven" is realized as a living reality in the here and now.

Quite an exciting possibility!

hugs,

lou

On Dec 17, 2007 3:40 PM, Sean K. Barry <sean.barry at juno.com> wrote:

>   Hi Kevin, Michael,
>
> It's odd to think GW could even think in terms of "The Rapture" as a
> driving motive for his behavior?
>
> My pulling the discussion into a religious concept comes more naturally
> arrived at, as a gregarious, human citizen of the planet.  Its our one Earth
> and I know as well as anybody that I would have wanted my parents to make it
> as livable a place could be as possible for me.  This is just like I want to
> do for my kids.  The statement by Brian Fallows said, ...
>
> "At present the climate costs of the fossil fuels we burn are not sheeted
> home to the consumer.
>
> They are diffused over the whole planet and accumulate for the future to
> deal with. It is a kind of subsidy from poor countries to rich ones and from
> future generations to the present."
>
> We are choosing the pay later scheme, to the detriment of the poor and our
> children, I thought (the future?).  It seems pretty much like Un-Christian
> behavior, really, to continue to do so, don't you think?  In my catechism,
> if I remember, Jesus Christ said, "Suffer (take care of) the poor and the
> little children, for they shall inherit the Earth".  WWJD?  He'd do better
> husbandry of the Earth and provide for other humans, including and
> especially, the poor and downtrodden, and the little children, because they
> are among us and they are the only future.  We need to see that they too,
> more than us, will need a better world, rather than continue trying to
> improve the world for just ourselves.
> There just were suddenly a lot of familiar and simple religious concepts
> to me, swept up and put in with the whole Global Climate Change
> Mitigation/Terra Preta project, all just by that Brian Fallows statement of
> the problem.  It brings to light that current practices for obtaining energy
> are ass backwards, when compared to the teachings of Jesus Christ.  So, it
> seems Un-Christian this way to not behave in a way which serves to rectify
> the problem (that is, to take Christ's recommendations).
>
> "Pay It Forward" is a good motto for what I think needs to be done, then.
> It sits with my religious sentiments, serves the young and the poor now, and
> moves my projects in the right direction for success.  An operating
> objective can be anything promoting energy sustainability in the future.
>
> Michael Bailles referenced a video of Geoff Lawton "making deserts
> bloom".  That "Pays it Forward".  It is a plan now for how to tend land
> without Mother Earth's teat in the future.  Grow up people of Earth!  Go out
> now and do better husbandry "over" the land.  Provide from the Sun and the
> Living Surface of the Earth, alone, and no longer the bones of our
> antecedents.  Do this, or die in the heat, having forgot to try.
>
> The sooner we can apply this sort of idea, then the more arable land to
> obtain food and energy, and the more able and sooner we can begin to wean
> ourselves off of the Earth's fossil carbon resources.  This will be required
> sooner (probably) or later anyway, when fossil carbon resources are
> exhausted, or when the planet dries up in runaway GW, because nothing was
> done in the early 21st century to combat GCC.
>
> Regards,
>
> SKB
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Kevin Chisholm <kchisholm at ca.inter.net>
> *To:* Michael Bailes <michaelangelica at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* Sean K. Barry <sean.barry at juno.com> ; Terrapreta<terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 17, 2007 9:30 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Terrapreta] NZ leading the way
>
> Dear MichaelMichael Bailes wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 17/12/2007, *Sean K. Barry* <sean.barry at juno.com
> > <mailto:sean.barry at juno.com <sean.barry at juno.com>>> wrote:
> >
> >
> >     It seems pretty much like Un-Christian behavior, really, to
> >     continue to do so, don't you think?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  It is interesting that fundamentalist, right wing Christianity is
> > starting to get a Care-for-the-Earth  polemic in the USA these days
>
> In "The House of Right Wing Christianity, there are many Mansions." :-)
> One or some of these splinter groups may be pushing Earth Care, but
> Earth Care is quite unimportant to others. The Rapture Believers lean
> toward an imminent end of the world, so that long term thinking is
> rather pointless.
>
> See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rapture
> http://www.raptureready.com/
> http://www.raptureready.com/rap2.html
> http://www.religioustolerance.org/rapture.htm
>
> Some people dismiss the Rapture, yet when many World Events are viewed
> in the context of the Rapture, many things fall in place. President Bush
> is a Believer in The Rapture.
>
> Kevin
> >
> > Michael the Archangel
> >
> > "You can fix all the world's problems in a garden. . . .
> > Most people don't know that"
> > FROM
> > http://www.blog.thesietch.org/wp-content/permaculture.swf
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