[Terrapreta] Fwd: Fwd: Global Carbon Cycle

[Sean K. Barry]

Hi Tom,

You pointed this out earlier; we do not have the resources in this country alone to clean up the carbon we have already released into the atmosphere or even come close to keeping up with the carbon we will release in the future.  If we intend to do anything to fix just our contribution to what is a worldwide problem, then we MUST engage the rest of the world and get their help.  Our survival as a country or even as a species, is very questionable if we do not cooperate.  We have to pay.  Our willful polluting ways "have come home to roost".  Paying others outside this country now for their help, might just make this the smallest of the problems we will have to face.

SKB

----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Miles<mailto:tmiles at trmiles.com> 
  To: 'Sean K. Barry'<mailto:sean.barry at juno.com> ; still.thinking at computare.org<mailto:still.thinking at computare.org> 
  Cc: terrapreta at bioenergylists.org<mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org> 
  Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 11:23 PM
  Subject: RE: [Terrapreta] Fwd: Fwd: Global Carbon Cycle


  So we'll be hostage to whoever we're in debt to for carbon? Russia perhaps? We've tried to do a JI/CDM project in Russia. We wanted to use the value of the carbon credits to build local renewable energy projects. The government has to authorize the sale of the credits to foreign governments. They want 50% or nothing. Guess who benefits? When everyone gets their piece there is not enough value left in the carbon credit to do the project. Bolivia has been the same. It's all about politics and nothing to do with environment. Countries are better off managing their own carbon to live within their (our) environmental means. 


  Tom

     

   

  ----- Original Message ----- 

    From: Tom Miles<mailto:tmiles at trmiles.com> 

    To: still.thinking at computare.org<mailto:still.thinking at computare.org> ; 'Sean K. Barry'<mailto:sean.barry at juno.com> 

    Cc: terrapreta at bioenergylists.org<mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org> 

    Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2007 1:57 PM

    Subject: RE: [Terrapreta] Fwd: Fwd: Global Carbon Cycle

     

    When you do your personal calculations you'll find anything from 8-15 tpy CO2 emissions, at 0.3 tC/tCO2 (~3.33 tCO2/tC) that's 2.4-6 tpy. That was the purpose of my calculation of the area required for applying carbon.  At 5-10 t/ha (2-4 t/a) that's about 1 acre (4 tC) per person per year.  

    http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/carbondioxide<http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/carbondioxide>

     

    It makes sense to invest in carbon sequestration through productive agriculture at the rate of 1 acre (4t) per person/year. At a US population of 302,011,659 (at 18:52 GMT (EST+5) Jun 05, 2007) that's 302 million acres per year or about 1.2 billion tons of charcoal per year. At 25% net yield of charcoal that's 4.8 million tons of biomass or more than 4 times what the USDOE says we have available for energy.   

     

    Tom

     
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