[Terrapreta] Terrapreta Digest, Vol 4, Issue 188
Rhisiart Gwilym
Rhisiart at DDraigGoch.org
Wed May 30 02:30:23 CDT 2007
Siwmae eto,
In Kevin's message, copied below, he concludes that just coal
mining, in the US alone, is so massive that charcoal sequestration as
part of terra preta agriculture can only have a small effect to
mitigate this release of fossil carbon. But this assumes that general
economic activity will continue and even grow greater from its
present level.
If there's one thing on which I'd take a serious bet, it's that that
can't happen for much longer. On a finite planet, we accept that
endless growth is impossible, or we drive the whole damn' train over
the cliff and into the canyon. The great Western god 'Economic
Growth' is about to be toppled, like Saddam's statue; whether we like
it or not, whether we agree or not.
My hunch is that we, as a species, will not opt to do wise and
cautious things in the way we live on this planet until we have been
scared shitless by the upcoming global catastrophes. This process of
scaring us will probably include mass dieoffs, in several waves, of
large numbers of humans, including plenty currently living in the
delusional dreamworld of the Pampered Twenty Percent.
If you assume that global warming doesn't then go off on a positive
feedback ramp which fries and sterilises the entire planet, like
Venus, (which damn' near happened at the end of the Permian Era) then
there will be human survivors of these catastrophes. However, I think
that the level of their economic activity might have reduced a little
by then. Probably it will have altered its nature a little also.
To focus in on the US in particular, I suspect that you may see a
considerable contraction in US fossil carbon burning, as the upcoming
US economic collapse crunches demand and disrupts business chains. It
seems quite possible too that the questionable integrity of the US
electrical grid -- to put it kindly -- might bring about a drop in
demand, as it unravels.
Meanwhile, wherever in the world there are survivors, they will be
attempting to do agriculture, just to keep from starving. And if by
then they have seen the sterling virtues of terra preta soil-making,
and of doing agriculture with permaculture techniques (another idea
whose time is almost here) they'll be using those methods, without
any ideological or commercial incentive, simply because they must.
When trying to intuit how things may play out from here into the near
future, it may help listees to get things into a global and
medium-to-long term perspective by making a visit to Jay Hanson's
ultimately grim 'Dieoff' website (dieoff.org). From brief
e-conversations with him, I would say that Jay is unduly pessimistic
and overly-deterministic (he's temperamentally disinclined to accept
that the universe always throws wild cards into our games, and that
absolute human certainty will never be attainable). But Dieoff places
some deeply sobering approaching realities before us, which are
coming to get us, I think, whether we choose to see them in advance
or not.
I still think it's a good idea to go on with the practical
development and spread of terra preta and permaculture techniques in
our food growing. We're going to need them. And the carbon
sequestration, and the alleviation of nitrate and methane effects,
inherent in making terra preta can have a crucial effect on how bad
climate perturbation gets.
Cofion, RhG
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 29 May 2007 09:33:05 -0300
From: Kevin Chisholm <kchisholm at ca.inter.net>
Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Charcoal agriculture: not ready for prime
time
To: Tom Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com>
Cc: terrapreta at bioenergylists.org
Message-ID: <465C1D81.9080101 at ca.inter.net>
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Dear Tom
Thanks very much for your clear example that puts a perspective on the
extent of present carbon additions to the Biosphere.
Basically, if all the available Biomass in the US was turned into
charcoal and buried, it would "neutralize" about 40% of the carbon
additions resulting from US coal. Carbon contributions from oil are
extra. Burying charcoal is clearly not the solution to the US
contribution to global warming.
Eliminating the other 60% of the carbon additions could be accomplished
by eliminating about 60% of present coal consumption. That is not going
to happen willingly.
For the most part, energy conservation only occurs willingly if there is
a financial return, typically with a Simple Payback Period of up to
about 3 to 5 years.
It is hard to imagine any significant circumstance where there would be
a 3-5 year payback period on a program to recover biomass, convert it to
charcoal, and then bury the charcoal for the sole purpose of
sequestering carbon.
The simplest way to solve a problem (excess carbon being introduced to
the Biosphere) is to eliminate it in the first place (Conserve)
There seems to be solid evidence that charcoal additions to the soil
have no detrimental effects, and that they can have positive effects, as
Terra Preta.
I would conclude as follows:
1: Burying charcoal cannot neutralize or reverse the US carbon additions
to the Biosphere resulting from consumption of fossil fuels at the
present rate.
2: Terra Preta's greatest potential benefit is as an agricultural
supplement, and its contribution to the alleviation of Global Warming
will, at the best, be a second order benefit.
3: The only solution to that portion of Global Warming resulting from
utilization of fossil fuels by Man is to reduce the rate of fossil fuel
utilization by Man.
Scary, huh?
Kevin
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