[Terrapreta] TP theft.

[Edward Someus]

=== RE  .......grow "back to full depth" in 20 years ===
 
 I am very much interested to share documented evidence, mode of action and
solid explanation of this phenomena = grow "back to full depth" in 20 years
??? 
 
ANY  INFO ON THAT ISSUE???
 
  thanx
 

Sincerely yours: Edward Someus (environmental engineer)
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-------Original Message-------
 
From: lou gold
Date: 2007.11.22. 5:07:48
To: Sean K. Barry;  Terrapreta
Subject: [Terrapreta] TP theft.
 
Hi Sean and All,

Since Brazil is a poor place, especially in Amazonian rural areas, TP most
likely does get stolen. 

However, I recently saw something about "commercial mining" of it that
sounded very responsible. The guy extracted it but left the bottom 20cm. It
would grow "back to full depth" in 20 years. I'm suspecting that eventually
there will be specialty "nursery" plots growing "seed" or "starter"  TP  for
use in other locations, nearby and far away. . 

I think this is a very attractive story for our messaging -- "sustainable
mining" with the TP growing back. It truly is sort of mind-blowing in terms
of standard popular expections about "dirt", and therefore an
attention-getter. And, as TP becomes more known and valuable, it might be
necessary to guard the original Amazonian plots against theft or
irresponsible forms of extraction. 

Happy messaging to all,

Lou




On Nov 21, 2007 10:33 PM, Sean K. Barry <sean.barry at juno.com> wrote:

Hi Lou,
 
I think I saw this way back, middle of 200, on a Cornell website , or EPRIDA
 or Christosph Steiner.  I'll see if I can find it.  They had a picture and
described the soil as so valuable that thieves come onto TP land and take it
away to sell (the illegal part is its not their land).  It said also that if
some TP soil is left on the ground, that it regenerates, but over time.  It
is not possible, either, to ship TP soil out of Brazil.
If one sat on 2 meters of the stuff, though, you would think one could mine
out the bottom meter and a half and sell it, while still being able to grow
crops.  The world needs a whole lot more soil turned into TP soil, though,
more than all the TP soil you could ever find in the Amazon rain basin.  We
are supposed to turn France into TP soil many times over!
 
Regards,
 
SKB
----- Original Message ----- 
From: lou gold 
To: Sean K. Barry 
Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:56 AM
Subject: question


Hi Sean,

Where did you get the idea that lots of terra preta is being mined illegally
in Brazil? 
I have only seen positive references about how leaving a depth of 20cm
allows it to 
grow back. Have I missed something? 

Just asking so that we can all polish our messages.

lou




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