[Terrapreta] TP theft.

[lou gold]

It looks like Bill Woods at Southern Illinois University is the guy to
consult:

"Yet *terra preta* may have a still more remarkable ability. Almost as if
alive, it appears to reproduce. Bill Woods has met local farmers who mine
the soil commercially. They find that, as long as 20cm of *terra preta* is
left undisturbed, the bed will regenerate over a period of about 20 years.
He suspects that a combination of bacteria and fungi is causing this
effect."
http://www.bbc.co.uk/science/horizon/2002/eldorado.shtml


On Nov 23, 2007 2:33 AM, Edward Someus <edward at terrenum.net> wrote:

>    === RE  .......grow "back to full depth" in 20 years ===
>
> * I am very much interested to share documented evidence, mode of action
> and solid explanation of this phenomena = grow "back to full depth" in 20
> years* ???
>
> ANY  INFO ON THAT ISSUE???
>
>  thanx
>
>
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> *-------Original Message-------*
>
>  *From:* lou gold <lou.gold at gmail.com>
> *Date:* 2007.11.22. 5:07:48
> *To:* Sean K. Barry <sean.barry at juno.com>;  Terrapreta<Terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>
> *Subject:* [Terrapreta] TP theft.
>
> Hi Sean and All,
>
> Since Brazil is a poor place, especially in Amazonian rural areas, TP most
> likely does get stolen.
>
> However, I recently saw something about "commercial mining" of it that
> sounded very responsible. The guy extracted it but left the bottom 20cm. It
> would grow "back to full depth" in 20 years. I'm suspecting that eventually
> there will be specialty "nursery" plots growing "seed" or "starter"  TP  for
> use in other locations, nearby and far away. .
>
> I think this is a very attractive story for our messaging -- "sustainable
> mining" with the TP growing back. It truly is sort of mind-blowing in terms
> of standard popular expections about "dirt", and therefore an
> attention-getter. And, as TP becomes more known and valuable, it might be
> necessary to guard the original Amazonian plots against theft or
> irresponsible forms of extraction.
>
> Happy messaging to all,
>
> Lou
>
>
>
> On Nov 21, 2007 10:33 PM, Sean K. Barry <sean.barry at juno.com> wrote:
>   Hi Lou,
>
> I think I saw this way back, middle of 200, on a Cornell website , or
> EPRIDA, or Christosph Steiner.  I'll see if I can find it.  They had a
> picture and described the soil as so valuable that thieves come onto TP land
> and take it away to sell (the illegal part is its not their land).  It said
> also that if some TP soil is left on the ground, that it regenerates, but
> over time.  It is not possible, either, to ship TP soil out of Brazil.
> If one sat on 2 meters of the stuff, though, you would think one could
> mine out the bottom meter and a half and sell it, while still being able to
> grow crops.  The world needs a whole lot more soil turned into TP soil,
> though, more than all the TP soil you could ever find in the Amazon rain
> basin.  We are supposed to turn France into TP soil many times over!
>
> Regards,
>
> SKB
>   ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* lou gold <lou.gold at gmail.com>
> *To:* Sean K. Barry <sean.barry at juno.com>
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 21, 2007 7:56 AM
> *Subject:* question
>
> Hi Sean,
>
> Where did you get the idea that lots of terra preta is being mined
> illegally in Brazil?
> I have only seen positive references about how leaving a depth of 20cm
> allows it to
> grow back. Have I missed something?
>
> Just asking so that we can all polish our messages.
>
> lou
>
>
>
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