[Terrapreta] Bali Media Opportunity

[lou gold]

This is a real interesting thread. Thanks to all.

If I wanted to direct someone  (who may not be a subscriber) to this thread
how might I do it?

Thanks,   lou

On Nov 23, 2007 6:34 PM, Tom Miles <tmiles at trmiles.com> wrote:

> Ruy,
>
> Thank you for the explanations. I have worked on PDD documents for biomass
> energy projects and I agree with a strategy to develop projects in the
> four
> target countries you suggest: China, India, Brazil and Mexico. I can think
> of good potential project areas in Mexico and Brazil. I wonder if some
> existing terra preta project areas would be good sites to propose CDM
> projects. Existing projects may have the institutional infrastructure to
> support the organizational demands of CDM projects.
>
> In terms of justifying terra Preta projects it seems that the work by Dr.
> Ogawa and colleagues should be useful. See  Carbon Sequestration by
> Carbonization of Biomass and Forestation: Three Case Studies by Ogawa,
> Okimori and Takahashi http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/ogawacarbon2006
>
> The use of charcoal for fuel vs soil is an important issue and may be why
> we
> have not seen efforts to use charcoal in arid regions of Brazil, for
> example. I have thought that Christoph Steiner's slash and char technique
> of
> using char in planting holes might be a way of using less char to show
> results that should hopefully lead to increased use were char is mostly
> used
> for fuel.
>
> Regards,
>
> Tom
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Ruy Korscha Anaya de la Rosa [mailto:korscha at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 11:50 AM
> > To: lou gold
> > Cc: Tom Miles; Terrapreta; info at eco-carbone.com; Guy Reinaud
> > Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Bali Media Opportunity
> >
> > Hello Tom, Sean, Lou and all,
> >
> > You can find the regular process for submitting a new CDM methodology
> > clicking on the following link:
> >
> > http://cdm.unfccc.int/Projects/pac/howto/CDMProjectActivity/NewMethodol
> > ogy/index.html
> >
> > A Designated Operational Entity (DOE) is usually the starting point.
> > The DOEs are the official validation, verification and certification
> > companies accredited by the Executive Board (EB) to perform these
> > activities.
> >
> > So, the project developer must introduce its terra preta project to a
> > DOE (I do not know how expensive is this but it represents a cost for
> > sure) by submitting the Project Design Document (PDD) with its
> > respective terra preta methodology. The forms can be found also by
> > clicking on the link above. Then the PDD and the new methodology are
> > forwarded to the EB and Meth Panel for revision.
> >
> > Therefore, first of all, a specific terra preta project and terra
> > preta methodology in a certain developing country must be developed. I
> > have been thinking that, to start with, terra preta projects under the
> > CDM might be more appropriate in major developing economies such as
> > China, India, Brazil and Mexico.
> >
> > These 4 countries are developing at a fast pace, their greenhouse gas
> > (GHG) emissions are rapidly increasing and their future energy demand
> > is alarming. Because of this, industrailized nations, particularly the
> > resilient U.S.A, want them to commit to legally binding CO2 targets in
> > a Post-Kyoto regime (By the way, this is one of the most important
> > topics to be treated in Bali). New windows of opportunity will be
> > opened for these 4 countries. terra preta???
> >
> > Furthermore, the CDM projects in the pipeline of only these 4
> > countries represent a little bit more than 80% of all the CDM projects
> > worldwide. There are several reasons behind this and expertise is one
> > of them. Moreover, in some areas in these countries forests are
> > already administered in a sustainable manner for some time now or are
> > in the way to achieve this. And obviously, a terra preta project must
> > be accompanied with sustainable management of forests.
> >
> > Tom, I know very well Pro Natura's biochar project. I have been in
> > contact with them here in Paris. Actually Action Carbone is buying the
> > Verified Emission Reductions (VERs) of their project in Senegal
> > through the Voluntary Carbon Market (not CDM). However, it is not a
> > terra preta project because they are using the biochar produced to
> > replace traditional charcoal which is used to cook their food with.
> > So, this brings me to a polemic argument that terra preta might face
> > sooner or later and also another motive for considering first the
> > major developing countries I described:
> >
> > How are you going to dig the biochar in the soil instead of using it
> > directly to substitute traditional fuels in economically poor regions
> > where deforestation remains uncontrolled and biomass is their primary
> > energy source??
> >
> > I do not know Eco-Carbone and I do not know if both mentioned
> > organizations are going to Bali. It would be interesting to know what
> > they think and how they can help.
> >
> > Everyone's contribution is welcome.
> >
> > cheers,
> >
> > Ruy
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Ruy Korscha Anaya de la Rosa
> > Project Manager
> > Goodplanet / Action Carbone
> > Domaine de Longchamp,
> > Carrefour de Longchamp
> > 75116 PARIS
> > France
> > Tel: +33 (0) 1 48 42 76 04
> > <www.goodplanet.org> <www.actioncarbone.org>
> > E-mail: ruy at yannarthusbertrand.org ; ruy at actioncarbone.org
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/23/07, lou gold <lou.gold at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Tom,
> > >
> > > I'm in Brazil. I'm not sure where Ruy is located.
> > > I will try to check it out and report back.
> > >
> > > lou
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Nov 23, 2007 4:11 PM, Tom Miles < tmiles at trmiles.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Ruy,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Pronatura and Eco-Carbone are organizations promoting biochar in
> > Brazil.
> > > They are both located in Paris. Eco-carbone has CDM projects in
> > Gabon,
> > > Niger, Mali, China and Russia so they should be quite familiar with
> > paths to
> > > make biochar eligible for CDM.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.pronatura.org/en/becs.html
> > > >
> > > > http://www.eco-carbone.com/english.html
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Are these organizations likely to be in Bali? Can they be enlisted
> > to
> > > help?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Are other organization that have been active in Brazil engaged in
> > CDM
> > > discussions about terra preta?
> > > >
> > > > See:
> > > http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/taxonomy/term/6/9
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tom Miles
> > > >
> > > > http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org
> > > [mailto:terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of
> > > Ruy Korscha Anaya de la Rosa
> > > > Sent: Friday, November 23, 2007 6:05 AM
> > > > To: Terrapreta
> > > > Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Bali Media Opportunity
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hello Terrapreta list members,
> > > >
> > > > I have been reading this list since its beginning but unfortunately
> > I
> > > haven't been participative.
> > > > I think Lou opened the gate for me with his e-mail (cheers Lou), so
> > I
> > > decided to set the foot in the door.
> > > >
> > > > Let me give you a brief introduction of myself:
> > > > I am Ruy Korscha Anaya de la Rosa, a Mexican passport holder, but
> > most
> > > relevant: a World Citizen highly concerned about the link between
> > > sustainable development and global warming and its consequences.
> > > >
> > > > I specialized in the Clean Development Mechanism (CDM) of the Kyoto
> > > Protocol and its opportunities and barriers in Least Developed
> > Countries. I
> > > have witnessed CDM's complex, slow, expensive and bureaucratic
> > procedures
> > > from a project developer's view to, currently, a carbon credit
> > buyer's
> > > perspective. I have followed notably the issue on non-renewable
> > biomass.
> > > >
> > > > The two methodologies addressing non-renewable biomass have been
> > recently
> > > approved by the CDM's Executive Board but, apparently, they now need
> > the
> > > green light from the Conference-Meeting of the Parties (CMP) next
> > month in
> > > Bali.
> > > >
> > > > The constant exchange (almost two years now) of several drafts of
> > these
> > > methodologies and their respective "requests for revision" between
> > the CDM's
> > > Executive Board, Methodology Panel and submitting parties makes me
> > think
> > > that a CDM officialy approved terra preta methodology would take
> > ages.
> > > >
> > > > I have personally talked about terra preta to a considerable amount
> > of
> > > carbon market participants and they, despite of not understanding the
> > term
> > > and how it works, seem interested to know more about terra preta. As
> > Lou
> > > implies, we should hurry up and indeed put terra preta under the
> > spotlight
> > > next month in Bali.
> > > >
> > > > I am very much interested in including terra preta projects in the
> > Carbon
> > > Finance Portfolio whether in the CDM or in the Voluntary Carbon
> > Market.
> > > Therefore I am packing terra preta in my bag and bringing it with me
> > to
> > > Bali.
> > > >
> > > > Positive energies to all of you,
> > > >
> > > > Ruy
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------------------
> > > > Ruy Korscha Anaya de la Rosa
> > > >  Project Manager
> > > >  Goodplanet / Action Carbone
> > > >  Domaine de Longchamp,
> > > >  Carrefour de Longchamp
> > > >  75116 PARIS
> > > >  France
> > > >  Tel: +33 (0) 1 48 42 76 04
> > > >  <www.goodplanet.org> <www.actioncarbone.org>
> > > >  E-mail: ruy at yannarthusbertrand.org ; ruy at actioncarbone.org
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Nov 23, 2007 1:53 PM, lou gold <lou.gold at gmail.com > wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Everyone,
> > > >
> > > > The Bali meetings to replace or revise the Kyoto protocols will
> > take place
> > > Dec 3 - 14. These meeting will generate a lot of media attention
> > worldwide.
> > > And that will also be a great opportunity to connect with bloggers,
> > > editorial boards, journalists and the like. From what I have read
> > carbon
> > > capture and sequestration in the soil is NOT ON THE AGENDA.
> > > >
> > > > But not to fear. This is a process building toward new protocols
> > and a new
> > > "carbon economy." Therefore it is extremely important that we enter
> > the
> > > dialogue. It's a magnificient opportunity to people -- lay and
> > expert,
> > > public and private -- interested. We need to start crafting our
> > messages,
> > > pleas, letters to the editor, whatevers and make sure that we crank
> > them out
> > > during the short period of media spotlight and attention. We need to
> > help
> > > give terra preta a voice that might move the world from fossil fuel
> > darkness
> > > into a living and growing light.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Here is the rap at the official site at
> > > http://unfccc.int/meetings/cop_13/items/4094.php
> > > >
> > > > What is expected from the Bali Conference?
> > > >
> > > > An international agreement needs to be found to follow the end of
> > the
> > > Kyoto Protocol's first commitment period, which ends in 2012. In
> > order to
> > > avoid a gap between then and the entry into force of a new framework,
> > the
> > > aim is to conclude a new deal by 2009 to allow enough time for
> > ratification.
> > > >
> > > > The "Bali roadmap" would establish the process to work on the key
> > building
> > > blocks of a future climate change regime, including adaptation,
> > mitigation,
> > > technology cooperation and financing the response to climate change.
> > But it
> > > would also need to set out the methodology and detailed calendar of
> > work for
> > > this process.
> > > >
> > > >
>
>
>
>
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