[Terrapreta] Fwd: compost and charcoal

[Kevin Chisholm]

Dear Lou

lou gold wrote:
> hmmm, doesn't this mistakenly equate char with ash?

Yes indeed!! The headline is totally misleading from the content. I have 
written them asn asked tehm to change their headline.

Best wishes,

Kevin
>
> On Nov 25, 2007 11:26 AM, Gerald Van Koeverden <vnkvrdn at yahoo.ca 
> <mailto:vnkvrdn at yahoo.ca>> wrote:
>
>     *Charcoal is **/Not/* * a Good Soil Amendment in Colorado*
>     *
>     *
>     from      http://www.coopext.colostate.edu/4dmg/Soil/charcoal.htm
>
>
>
>
>     On 24-Nov-07, at 10:27 PM, Gerald Van Koeverden wrote:
>
>>
>>>
>>>     Tom,
>>>
>>>     Thanks for that link about the enhancing effect of charcoal on  
>>>     compost by Japanese researchers.
>>>
>>>     Looks like some revision of the accepted methods of making compost  
>>>     might be in order.  The first site I went to on making compost  
>>>     specifically advises avoiding charcoal in the compost pile!!
>>>
>>>     http://www.tceq.state.tx.us/assets/public/assistance/education/ 
>>>     waste/composting.pdf
>>>
>>>     The next two advised against using any charcoal ash.   By not
>>>     saying  
>>>     anything positive about using charcoal itself, the message
>>>     conveyed  
>>>     is negative towards using charcoal at all as a composting
>>>     component.
>>>
>>>     Gerrit
>>>
>>>     On 24-Nov-07, at 6:33 PM, Tom Miles wrote:
>>>
>>>>     See the presentation on charcoal mixed compost at the IAI  
>>>>     conference by
>>>>     Shuji Yoshizawa, Satoko Tanaka, Michio Ohata or
>>>>     Meisei University and Shigeru Mineki, Tokyo University of Science.
>>>>
>>>>     http://www.biochar-international.org/images/Yoshizawa_- 
>>>>     _Charcoal_Composting_
>>>>     of_Rice_Bran_Effect_on_Microorganisms.pdf
>>>>
>>>>     One slide:
>>>>     "Composting from mixture of charcoal and biomass waste (Charcoal  
>>>>     Mixed
>>>>     Compost, CMC)
>>>>     Composts made from garbage generated by homes, restaurants and
>>>>     food
>>>>     industries and livestock
>>>>     waste, and its utilization is receiving attention from the  
>>>>     viewpoint of
>>>>     recycle of biomass wastes.
>>>>
>>>>     As wood and bamboo have pores which are the size that are
>>>>     suitable  
>>>>     for
>>>>     microorganisms to support, by
>>>>     adding the charcoal from the beginning of composting, the  
>>>>     proliferation of
>>>>     microorganisms will be enhanced."
>>>>
>>>>     Their results were positive.
>>>>
>>>>     Tom
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>     -----Original Message-----
>>>>>     From: terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org
>>>>>     <mailto:terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org> [mailto:terrapreta-
>>>>>     bounces at bioenergylists.org
>>>>>     <mailto:bounces at bioenergylists.org>] On Behalf Of Gerald Van
>>>>>     Koeverden
>>>>>     Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2007 10:42 AM
>>>>>     To: terrapreta preta
>>>>>     Subject: [Terrapreta] compost and charcoal
>>>>>
>>>>>     We've had a lot of talk about the cost-benefit of applying
>>>>>     charcoal
>>>>>     to large acreages of land.  And also about using compost or  
>>>>>     manure to
>>>>>     enrich charcoal before applying it.
>>>>>
>>>>>     What about adding charcoal to the compost pile at the beginning of
>>>>>     the process?  Has anybody researched the value of adding
>>>>>     charcoal to
>>>>>     the biomass right at the beginning?  A lot of ammonia is
>>>>>     released to
>>>>>     the atmosphere during composting;  would charcoal act as a
>>>>>     sponge to
>>>>>     soak it up and hold it, along with mineral nutrients which are  
>>>>>     easily
>>>>>     susceptible to leaching?  In effect, if this is true, charcoal
>>>>>     fines
>>>>>     as part of the composting process would significantly add to the
>>>>>     potential nutrient value of that compost.
>>>>>
>>>>>     gerrit
>>>>>
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