[Terrapreta] CO2 rising

[lou gold]

That's one way that you might interpret our responses -- by reducing them to
a duality such as"not specific enough" vs "too specific" and that will only
lead you to the blind men and the elephant. Excuse me but this is also a way
to characterize the reductionist dilemma -- reduce it to an either/or
alternative and YES INDEED the result you get will depend on the way you
look at it (or feel it if blind).

BUT...  what if David and I are not offering either/or alternatives? What if
we both are showing you complexities which include both specific and
non-specific elements in a process that includes both static and dynamic
qualities? This might lead out of the dilemma of the blind men and the
elephant.

Einstein famously observed that a problem cannot be solved at the same level
that it was created. The answer to the conundrums generated by thinking that
light is either a particle or a wave cannot be solved. It took quantum
physics to show that light is both a particle and a wave. Interestingly,
Einstein resisted the quantum "solution." Seems like we all can get stuck.

regards,

lou

On 9/23/07, Brian Hans <bhans at earthmimic.com> wrote:
>
> Heehee, David comments that Im not specific enough and Lou comments that
> Im too specific
>
> As so... the life of an ecologist in Gaia. The elephant and the blindmen
> come to mind...
>
> Brian
>
>
>
> *David Yarrow <dyarrow at nycap.rr.com>* wrote:
>
> you're stuck in generalizations.  forests are not all one type.  there are
> dozens of forest types, with widely varying characteristics, species, ages,
> processes, etc.
>
> growing on vertical cliffs and steep talus slopes in the niagara river
> gorge is a forest of 700-1000 year old white cedars and associated
> herbaceous, insect and other species with little organic detritus blanketing
> the rocks.
>
> at the other end of NY in the hudson valley is a forest of 300-700 year
> old mixed hardwood & hemlock trees growing in a deep, inaccessible ravine
> with no soil, but many feet of organic humus with thick mats of moss, ferns,
> liverworts, lichen and other primitive plants.
>
> above that ravine, growing on bare, polished bedrock tables, is a forest
> of pitch pine and scrub oak -- 100-150 years old -- old for their species --
> with a thin covering of understory, moss and soil.
>
> three ancient forests with extremely varied characteristics, including
> age, species, rooting structures, associated species, soil forming and
> carbon fixing features.
>
> David Yarrow
> "If yer not forest, yer against us."
> Turtle EyeLand Sanctuary
> 44 Gilligan Road, East Greenbush, NY 12061
> dyarrow at nycap.rr.com
> www.championtrees.org
> www.OnondagaLakePeaceFestival.org<http://www.onondagalakepeacefestival.org/>
> www.citizenre.com/dyarrow/
> www.farmandfood.org
> www.SeaAgri.com <http://www.seaagri.com/>
>
> "Happiness can be found even in the darkest of times,
> if one only remembers to turn on the light."
> -Albus Dumbledore
>
>
>
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