[Terrapreta] Charcoal Specification Development

[ch braun]

Hello Dave,

Sorry, I have absolutely no experience with Delphi! With C# neither
actually, since I am on the Linux side (ubuntu)... Basically, I can program
in C, C++, Java and Python.

So I looked for an UML modeling tool which could be suitable for our
purpose, and the best solution I tried is ArgoUML:
http://argouml.tigris.org/

What do you think of it? Apparently there is no problem for notes and for
XMI import/export.
Would it meet your requirements?

Sincerely,
Christelle

On 9/27/07, code suidae <codesuidae at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 9/27/07, ch braun <brauncch at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I have an idea to write a little windows utility program to keep track
> of
> > > char experiments.
> > Could you give more details on what your utility program
> > is supposed to do?
>
> Well, I suspect that I'll want to have my personal charcoal and
> cultivation data in a disconnected format on my computer, so I can
> work with it without an internet connection until I'm ready to upload
> it (particularly for cultivation experiments which can take a
> substantial amount of time). Once the data was ready I'd export it to
> the specified XML format and send it up to your website for public
> access.
>
> The current plan is to write it in Delphi 7 using a Firebird database.
> I've considered C# too, but the overhead of the dotnet environment is
> much higher and I'd like to keep the system requirements minimal. I
> might try it in C# too, just because I'd like to explore some of the
> tools it provides that I don't usually get to work with, but initially
> I'll do it in Delphi, for me it'll make for a much faster development
> cycle.
>
> > Which editor do you use ? Could you send me the uml file
> > represented on the picture you sent me?
>
> I did that one at http://gModeler.com as an experiment to see if I
> liked their web-based (Flash) editor. It isn't bad, but it's a little
> difficult to share documents with it. The XML that it exports doesn't
> include the note entities, which is a little disappointing. That is
> why I took a picture instead of sending the file.
>
> For parts of my project I will use ModelMaker
> <http://www.modelmakertools.com> which comes with Delphi.
> Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be any interoperability between
> gModeler and ModelMaker. I could write an importer for it, but I'd
> rather just use a different modeler. I'm looking at some other options
> that include XMI support that would let ModelMaker import the model.
>
> Do you have a preference on the modeling tool? I'm taking a look at
> hyperModel 3 right now, it's a free Eclipse based java tool with XMI
> support. If you have access to ModelMaker we can use that, or if you
> know of something else?
>
> > I have only a doubt as to the scope of what we call "experiment": I
> agree
> > with all that, but for me the actual "experiment" is the soil amendment,
> > right? So where do you put all that?
>
> I'm thinking that there are two kinds of experiments, char making and
> cultivation. They are separate but related; a cultivation experiment
> can use char from a char experiment.
>
> Cultivation can also use other amendments, though we won't track them
> to the same level of detail (for example, composting can be done in a
> number of different ways, much like char production. We'll just note
> in a cultivation experiment that compost was used as an amendment).
>
> It's also interesting to note that a cultivation experiment uses soil
> as an input for amendments. This soil can be the result of a previous
> cultivation experiment, a test plot from a previous season for
> example. This could be done to track season to season performance with
> or without further amendments.
>
> I suppose we should change the subject for this thread?
>
> Dave K
> --
> "Our ignorance is not so vast as our failure to use what we know." -
> M. King Hubbert
>
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