[Terrapreta] Charcoal Specification Development

[joe ferguson]

ch braun wrote:
> Hello Dave,
>
> Sorry, I have absolutely no experience with Delphi! With C# neither 
> actually, since I am on the Linux side (ubuntu)... 
A lady after my own heart!

The OpenOffice.org suite has some very nice tools, including a DBMS.  I 
believe it is structured as XMS (all the other tools are) so it might be 
eawsy to bootstrap from the work done so far.
 And it's available for the dominant monopoly operating system as well, 
so those who still do windows can participate.  See 
http://www.openoffice.org/

Joe

> Basically, I can program in C, C++, Java and Python.
>
> So I looked for an UML modeling tool which could be suitable for our 
> purpose, and the best solution I tried is ArgoUML:
> http://argouml.tigris.org/
>
> What do you think of it? Apparently there is no problem for notes and 
> for XMI import/export.
> Would it meet your requirements?
>
> Sincerely,
> Christelle
>
> On 9/27/07, *code suidae* <codesuidae at gmail.com 
> <mailto:codesuidae at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>     On 9/27/07, ch braun <brauncch at gmail.com
>     <mailto:brauncch at gmail.com>> wrote:
>     > > I have an idea to write a little windows utility program to
>     keep track of
>     > > char experiments.
>     > Could you give more details on what your utility program
>     > is supposed to do?
>
>     Well, I suspect that I'll want to have my personal charcoal and
>     cultivation data in a disconnected format on my computer, so I can
>     work with it without an internet connection until I'm ready to upload
>     it (particularly for cultivation experiments which can take a
>     substantial amount of time). Once the data was ready I'd export it to
>     the specified XML format and send it up to your website for public
>     access.
>
>     The current plan is to write it in Delphi 7 using a Firebird database.
>     I've considered C# too, but the overhead of the dotnet environment is
>     much higher and I'd like to keep the system requirements minimal. I
>     might try it in C# too, just because I'd like to explore some of the
>     tools it provides that I don't usually get to work with, but initially
>     I'll do it in Delphi, for me it'll make for a much faster development
>     cycle.
>
>     > Which editor do you use ? Could you send me the uml file
>     > represented on the picture you sent me?
>
>     I did that one at http://gModeler.com as an experiment to see if I
>     liked their web-based (Flash) editor. It isn't bad, but it's a little
>     difficult to share documents with it. The XML that it exports doesn't
>     include the note entities, which is a little disappointing. That is
>     why I took a picture instead of sending the file.
>
>     For parts of my project I will use ModelMaker
>     <http://www.modelmakertools.com> which comes with Delphi.
>     Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be any interoperability between
>     gModeler and ModelMaker. I could write an importer for it, but I'd
>     rather just use a different modeler. I'm looking at some other
>     options
>     that include XMI support that would let ModelMaker import the model.
>
>     Do you have a preference on the modeling tool? I'm taking a look at
>     hyperModel 3 right now, it's a free Eclipse based java tool with XMI
>     support. If you have access to ModelMaker we can use that, or if you
>     know of something else?
>
>     > I have only a doubt as to the scope of what we call
>     "experiment": I agree
>     > with all that, but for me the actual "experiment" is the soil
>     amendment,
>     > right? So where do you put all that?
>
>     I'm thinking that there are two kinds of experiments, char making and
>     cultivation. They are separate but related; a cultivation experiment
>     can use char from a char experiment.
>
>     Cultivation can also use other amendments, though we won't track them
>     to the same level of detail (for example, composting can be done in a
>     number of different ways, much like char production. We'll just note
>     in a cultivation experiment that compost was used as an amendment).
>
>     It's also interesting to note that a cultivation experiment uses soil
>     as an input for amendments. This soil can be the result of a previous
>     cultivation experiment, a test plot from a previous season for
>     example. This could be done to track season to season performance with
>     or without further amendments.
>
>     I suppose we should change the subject for this thread?
>
>     Dave K
>     --
>     "Our ignorance is not so vast as our failure to use what we know." -
>     M. King Hubbert
>
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