[Terrapreta] Charcoal Specification Development

[ch braun]

Hi Dave,

That would be great!

Sincerely yours,
Christelle

On 9/30/07, code suidae <codesuidae at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Howdy,
>
> ArgoUML looks great, and it appears to work well enough with ModelMaker
> that I won't have any problems (I have to import the model through
> ModelMaker for my code generation tool).
>
> How do you want to proceed? I can rebuild the model I showed you before
> using ARgoUML and then send you a copy.
>
> Dave K
>
> On 9/29/07, ch braun <brauncch at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Dave,
> >
> > Sorry, I have absolutely no experience with Delphi! With C# neither
> > actually, since I am on the Linux side (ubuntu)... Basically, I can program
> > in C, C++, Java and Python.
> >
> > So I looked for an UML modeling tool which could be suitable for our
> > purpose, and the best solution I tried is ArgoUML:
> > http://argouml.tigris.org/
> >
> > What do you think of it? Apparently there is no problem for notes and
> > for XMI import/export.
> > Would it meet your requirements?
> >
> > Sincerely,
> > Christelle
> >
> > On 9/27/07, code suidae < codesuidae at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 9/27/07, ch braun <brauncch at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I have an idea to write a little windows utility program to keep
> > > track of
> > > > > char experiments.
> > > > Could you give more details on what your utility program
> > > > is supposed to do?
> > >
> > > Well, I suspect that I'll want to have my personal charcoal and
> > > cultivation data in a disconnected format on my computer, so I can
> > > work with it without an internet connection until I'm ready to upload
> > > it (particularly for cultivation experiments which can take a
> > > substantial amount of time). Once the data was ready I'd export it to
> > > the specified XML format and send it up to your website for public
> > > access.
> > >
> > > The current plan is to write it in Delphi 7 using a Firebird database.
> > > I've considered C# too, but the overhead of the dotnet environment is
> > > much higher and I'd like to keep the system requirements minimal. I
> > > might try it in C# too, just because I'd like to explore some of the
> > > tools it provides that I don't usually get to work with, but initially
> > > I'll do it in Delphi, for me it'll make for a much faster development
> > > cycle.
> > >
> > > > Which editor do you use ? Could you send me the uml file
> > > > represented on the picture you sent me?
> > >
> > > I did that one at http://gModeler.com as an experiment to see if I
> > > liked their web-based (Flash) editor. It isn't bad, but it's a little
> > > difficult to share documents with it. The XML that it exports doesn't
> > > include the note entities, which is a little disappointing. That is
> > > why I took a picture instead of sending the file.
> > >
> > > For parts of my project I will use ModelMaker
> > > < http://www.modelmakertools.com> which comes with Delphi.
> > > Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be any interoperability between
> > > gModeler and ModelMaker. I could write an importer for it, but I'd
> > > rather just use a different modeler. I'm looking at some other options
> > >
> > > that include XMI support that would let ModelMaker import the model.
> > >
> > > Do you have a preference on the modeling tool? I'm taking a look at
> > > hyperModel 3 right now, it's a free Eclipse based java tool with XMI
> > > support. If you have access to ModelMaker we can use that, or if you
> > > know of something else?
> > >
> > > > I have only a doubt as to the scope of what we call "experiment": I
> > > agree
> > > > with all that, but for me the actual "experiment" is the soil
> > > amendment,
> > > > right? So where do you put all that?
> > >
> > > I'm thinking that there are two kinds of experiments, char making and
> > > cultivation. They are separate but related; a cultivation experiment
> > > can use char from a char experiment.
> > >
> > > Cultivation can also use other amendments, though we won't track them
> > > to the same level of detail (for example, composting can be done in a
> > > number of different ways, much like char production. We'll just note
> > > in a cultivation experiment that compost was used as an amendment).
> > >
> > > It's also interesting to note that a cultivation experiment uses soil
> > > as an input for amendments. This soil can be the result of a previous
> > > cultivation experiment, a test plot from a previous season for
> > > example. This could be done to track season to season performance with
> > > or without further amendments.
> > >
> > > I suppose we should change the subject for this thread?
> > >
> > > Dave K
> > > --
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> > > M. King Hubbert
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