[Terrapreta] Fw: (maybe controversial)

[lou gold]

Sean,

When you say,

"I just do not see the value in using it religious or political affiliations
support our cause or enact our work to combat GW/GCC."

my only response is that I AGREE.

But it also makes clear to me that when you and I use the words "political"
and "religious" we are speaking about totally different things. I, for
example, was not using the words in an institutional sense of
"affiliations." I sense that you are actually challenging (or feeling
challenged by) something deeper but I don't quite get it and I don't want to
second-guess you. All I was saying is that I believe that it will be a great
day and a powerful synergy when science and belief figure out how to work
together and that it might take something that radical to meet the
incredible challenges that we face. On the other hand, if what needs to be
done can be done in simpler ways -- that are somehow neither political nor
religious -- I'm all for it.



On Sat, Apr 12, 2008 at 7:16 PM, Sean K. Barry <sean.barry at juno.com> wrote:

>  Hi Lou,
>
> LG:
>
> Sean,
>
> "Understanding and solving the problem of GW and GCC is *beyond a
> religious and political need *in our lives, I think."
>
> ...
>
> No, we don't need to go beyond politics and religion. We to get to them
> and their promise.
>
> ,Lou
>
> Okay?  Christians, Buddists, Muslims, Republicans, Democrats, peasants,
> and all rest of Earth's people can all suffer heat strokes, can all starve,
> and already all burn fossil fuels in the same way.  Neither religion, nor
> political sensibilities would effect any of that.  I will grant you that
> political will and religious fervor can effect the actions of many more
> people than most other things.  But, if some Christians believe in
> stewardship of the planet, then religious fervor might make all Muslims
> believe in the alternative.  Political or religious rivals might oppose us
> on political or religious grounds.  Political will is lacking.  Political
> will often means going against the mainstream.  I think we all need to see
> that we are in the same stream, regardless of politics or religion.
>
> Go ahead and use political ideology or religious belief to effect a change
> for the right actions to combat GW/GCC.  I just do not see the value in
> using it religious or political affiliations support our cause or enact our
> work to combat GW/GCC.  Couldn't it stymie things badly if pro-choice
> advocates were believers in working towards a solution to the climate
> crisis?  What in the hell would the pro-lifers be doing in support of them?!
>
> Un-huh, I say.  Get beyond the religious and political, lest we fall into
> that centuries old quagmire of disagreeing on religious or political grounds
> about something so important to agree upon and something too important for
> us act in concert together on.
>
> Regards,
>
> SKB
>



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