[Terrapreta] Ponder the Maunder

[Sean K. Barry]

Hi Mark,

I think the value of Terra Preta is that it can do BOTH!  It can improve soil fertility to feed more people AND sequester large amounts of carbon.

Regards,

SKB
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Mark Ludlow<mailto:mark at ludlow.com> 
  To: 'lou gold'<mailto:lou.gold at gmail.com> ; 'Jim Joyner'<mailto:jimstoy at dtccom.net> ; 'Terra Preta'<mailto:Terrapreta at bioenergylists.org> 
  Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 12:23 PM
  Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Ponder the Maunder


  Hi Lou,

   

  I can't speak for others, but I believe, personally, that framing the discussion around carbon sequestration is a big mistake. Even today, the world is experiencing rapidly escalating food prices and the importance of making agriculture more sustainable and productive may well affect more people in this century than GHG.

   

  My personal interest is sparked by the notion that char adds to or at least helps to maintain soil fertility. It also will sequester carbon and it may also immobilize certain toxic substances; all positives, but all secondary to the improvement of soil fertility and the virtual rebuilding of soils in many areas of the world.

   

  The discussion of late, seeming to imply some form of New World Order as a solution for Global Warming, makes me at least a little nervous and I can see that it has a similar effect on at least a few others. Already, leaders of this way of viewing the future are informing members of the list what ideas are politically correct and which are anathematic. I don't remember being polled.

   

  If I want to be preached to, I'll try to find a preacher who's a snake handler, not just a snake oil salesman, if for no other reason than shear entertainment value. But actually, I would rather believe that every man is his own best preacher and that all of the jawboning, petty back-and-forth, and racing to gain the moral high ground does little to further the "cause" of Terra Preta.

   

  Best regards,

  Mark

   

   


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  From: terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org [mailto:terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of lou gold
  Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2008 9:47 AM
  To: Jim Joyner
  Cc: Terra Preta
  Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Ponder the Maunder

   

  Fair enough. I'll try to elaborate.

  Some of us believe that terra preta will make the world a better place. That is why I am on this forum. I have no hard evidence to prove that terra preta will make the world a better place but I have both feeling and faith that it will. If I doubted it or if I was skeptical I would not be here.

  I guess that I'm asking a parallel question of you because I know that there comes a time to put doubt aside and act. I feel that now is the time for terra preta and that the difference that makes the difference between now and other times (when we could not have cared less about terra preta) is our growing desire to remove CO2 from the atmosphere.

  How does it work for you?

  On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 1:34 PM, Jim Joyner <jimstoy at dtccom.net<mailto:jimstoy at dtccom.net>> wrote:

  lou gold wrote: 

   

    lou gold wrote: 

    Please excuse my directness but I want to ask a personal question. Do you think that we can make the world a better place through endless doubt? 

    No, of course not.


  Ok. Now, what is the good positive thing that you believe in for making the world a better place? 

  I guess I don't know what you are looking for. Basically, I eat when I'm hungry, sleep when I tired; raise my kids; grow my garden. What else is there?

  Not sure I have any such beliefs. We'll either get it right or we won't.

  Jim


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