[Terrapreta] Earthen Kiln Conjecture

[lou gold]

GREAT.

"Yes, I can."

Hey, thanks for tolerating me jumping in and out.
I'm working late on a photo project and have the forum open.

hugs to all,

lou

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:52 AM, Sean K. Barry <sean.barry at juno.com> wrote:

>  Hi Lou,
>
> I hope to be able to earn "carbon credits" myself, by working with people
> operating or living in non-Annex I countries during the 2008-2012 start up
> phase of the Kyoto Protocol.  I hope to be sharing carbonization technology
> with people in developing nations and helping them earn the "carbon credits"
> themselves, too.  I hope to set up independent "colliers" who can earn
> "carbon credits" for doing what I view as very important work, making
> charcoal for charcoal-in-soil carbon sequestration.  I hope these associates
> I make will also receive the agricultural benfits to their soils that are
> promised by the Terra Preta phenomenon.  Others can do and say what they
> like.  I have a plan.
>
> Regards,
>
> SKB
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* lou gold <lou.gold at gmail.com>
> *To:* Kevin Chisholm <kchisholm at ca.inter.net>
> *Cc:* Sean K. Barry <sean.barry at juno.com> ; terra pretta group<terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>
> *Sent:* Saturday, April 19, 2008 12:39 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Terrapreta] Earthen Kiln Conjecture
>
> I wish I did (own a carbon trading company).
>
> On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:33 AM, Kevin Chisholm <kchisholm at ca.inter.net>
> wrote:
>
> > Dear Sean
> >
> > Sean K. Barry wrote:
> > > Hi Kevin,
> > >
> > > I basically look at criticism of the IPCC and its reports by a few
> > > people as "hogshit".  There is fervent support from the vast majority
> > > of 1500+ member scientists involved with the IPCC.  Their considered
> > > opinion outweighs the radically different views of the few.  You do
> > > not like consensus, but there it is, 90-97% sure, not absolutely, just
> > > high probability.  That is bluntly stated, and the thought is
> > > built/supported by high probability estimates ("90-97% sure") from
> > > 1500+ IPCC member scientists (higher statistical significance) versus
> > > the claims of a handful of nay-sayers (lower statistical
> > > significance).  They "cherry-pick" data to try and make it say what
> > > they want to believe it says, because they can find no one who agrees
> > > with them from the outset.
> >
> > The Writers whole point seems to be that the IPCC selected the
> > Scientists  who gave them the answers they wanted, and payed no heed to
> > those who held a differing opinion. Why don't you write him and get the
> > details first hand?
> > >
> > > I think conspiracies are a game in the realm of the few and the
> > > financially incentivized, or with "scientist-come-wannabes", not of
> > > the many and the experienced, and not of the independent.  Independent
> > > support of AGW is evident.  Criticism of AGW is bought.
> >
> > You make a very good case for the IPCC to be part of a conspiracy. A few
> > people and corporations stand to make a lot of money if the IPCC
> > recommendations are followed and "carbon trading" comes about in a
> > bigger way. I understand, for example, that Al Gore owns a carbon
> > trading company.
> >
> > Kevin
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > >
> > > SKB
> > >
> > >     ----- Original Message -----
> > >     *From:* Jim Joyner <mailto:jimstoy at dtccom.net>
> > >     *To:* terra pretta group <mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>
> >  >     *Sent:* Friday, April 18, 2008 9:50 PM
> > >     *Subject:* Re: [Terrapreta] Earthen Kiln Conjecture
> > >
> > >     Thanks Kevin.
> > >
> > >     I'm not a conspiracy person (basically, I don't believe that the
> > >     people
> > >     of a mentality to bring off such things ultimately have the
> > >     competence
> > >     to do so), but this is all beginning to look like some sort of
> > grand
> > >     scheme to foist GW on us as a distraction from the real problems
> > >     of the
> > >     world.
> > >
> > >     Please, no one argue with me, I yield in advance.
> > >
> > >     Jim
> > >
> > >     Kevin Chisholm wrote:
> > >     > Dear Jim
> > >     >
> > >     > Another interesting article on attempts to falsely support the
> > IPCC
> > >     > stance on Climate Change is here:
> > >     >
> > >     http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=440268&p=1
> > >     <http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=440268&p=1
> > >
> > >     >
> > >     > Basically, a Writer has been researching the Issue, and has been
> > >     > posting his findings to Wikipedia. . Wikipedia seems to have
> > been
> > >     > "out-editing" him, whenever he would post additions to articles
> > >     that
> > >     > contradicted IPCC's position. He has found consistent efforts on
> > >     teh
> > >     > part of Wikipedia to slant postings and views  toward supporting
> > >     the
> > >     > IPCC position.
> > >     >
> > >     > Best wishes,
> > >     >
> > >     > Kevin
> > >     >
> > >     > Jim Joyner wrote:
> > >     >> Gordon,
> > >     >>
> > >     >> Thanks, I enjoyed watching the video(s). I notice no one here
> > has
> > >     >> attempted a refutation to any of his arguments (Well, Sean said
> > >     he's
> > >     >> a "cherry picker").
> > >     >>
> > >     >> There was one thing, though, that bothered me after doing a
> > little
> > >     >> digging. Bob Carter's research is funded in part by Exxon Mobil
> > >     along
> > >     >> with AT&T, Avue Technologies, The Coca-Cola Company, General
> > >     Motors
> > >     >> Corporation, Intel, McDonalds, Merck, Microsoft, Nasdaq, PhRMA,
> > >     and
> > >     >> Qualcomm .
> > >     >>
> > >     >> Jim
> > >     >>
> > >     >> gordon eliott wrote:
> > >     >>
> > >     >>> yes terra preta is fascinating in itself.
> > >     >>> and yes for anyone interested in climate remediation, may i
> > >     suggest:
> > >     >>>
> > >     >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI&feature=related
> > >     <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI&feature=related>
> > >     >>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI&feature=related
> > >     <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI&feature=related>>
> > >     >>>
> > >     >>> best wishes
> > >     >>> gordon eliott
> > >     >>>
> > >
> >
> >
> >
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