[Terrapreta] Earthen Kiln Conjecture

[Sean K. Barry]

Hi Lou,

I hope to be able to earn "carbon credits" myself, by working with people operating or living in non-Annex I countries during the 2008-2012 start up phase of the Kyoto Protocol.  I hope to be sharing carbonization technology with people in developing nations and helping them earn the "carbon credits" themselves, too.  I hope to set up independent "colliers" who can earn "carbon credits" for doing what I view as very important work, making charcoal for charcoal-in-soil carbon sequestration.  I hope these associates I make will also receive the agricultural benfits to their soils that are promised by the Terra Preta phenomenon.  Others can do and say what they like.  I have a plan.

Regards,

SKB
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: lou gold<mailto:lou.gold at gmail.com> 
  To: Kevin Chisholm<mailto:kchisholm at ca.inter.net> 
  Cc: Sean K. Barry<mailto:sean.barry at juno.com> ; terra pretta group<mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org> 
  Sent: Saturday, April 19, 2008 12:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Earthen Kiln Conjecture


  I wish I did (own a carbon trading company). 


  On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:33 AM, Kevin Chisholm <kchisholm at ca.inter.net<mailto:kchisholm at ca.inter.net>> wrote:

    Dear Sean

    Sean K. Barry wrote:

    > Hi Kevin,
    >
    > I basically look at criticism of the IPCC and its reports by a few
    > people as "hogshit".  There is fervent support from the vast majority
    > of 1500+ member scientists involved with the IPCC.  Their considered
    > opinion outweighs the radically different views of the few.  You do
    > not like consensus, but there it is, 90-97% sure, not absolutely, just
    > high probability.  That is bluntly stated, and the thought is
    > built/supported by high probability estimates ("90-97% sure") from
    > 1500+ IPCC member scientists (higher statistical significance) versus
    > the claims of a handful of nay-sayers (lower statistical
    > significance).  They "cherry-pick" data to try and make it say what
    > they want to believe it says, because they can find no one who agrees
    > with them from the outset.


    The Writers whole point seems to be that the IPCC selected the
    Scientists  who gave them the answers they wanted, and payed no heed to
    those who held a differing opinion. Why don't you write him and get the
    details first hand?

    >
    > I think conspiracies are a game in the realm of the few and the
    > financially incentivized, or with "scientist-come-wannabes", not of
    > the many and the experienced, and not of the independent.  Independent
    > support of AGW is evident.  Criticism of AGW is bought.


    You make a very good case for the IPCC to be part of a conspiracy. A few
    people and corporations stand to make a lot of money if the IPCC
    recommendations are followed and "carbon trading" comes about in a
    bigger way. I understand, for example, that Al Gore owns a carbon
    trading company.

    Kevin
    >
    > Regards,
    >
    > SKB

    >
    >     ----- Original Message -----
    >     *From:* Jim Joyner <mailto:jimstoy at dtccom.net<mailto:jimstoy at dtccom.net>>
    >     *To:* terra pretta group <mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org<mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>>

    >     *Sent:* Friday, April 18, 2008 9:50 PM
    >     *Subject:* Re: [Terrapreta] Earthen Kiln Conjecture
    >
    >     Thanks Kevin.
    >
    >     I'm not a conspiracy person (basically, I don't believe that the
    >     people
    >     of a mentality to bring off such things ultimately have the
    >     competence
    >     to do so), but this is all beginning to look like some sort of grand
    >     scheme to foist GW on us as a distraction from the real problems
    >     of the
    >     world.
    >
    >     Please, no one argue with me, I yield in advance.
    >
    >     Jim
    >
    >     Kevin Chisholm wrote:
    >     > Dear Jim
    >     >
    >     > Another interesting article on attempts to falsely support the IPCC
    >     > stance on Climate Change is here:
    >     >
    >     http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=440268&p=1<http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=440268&p=1>
    >     <http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=440268&p=1<http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=440268&p=1>>
    >     >
    >     > Basically, a Writer has been researching the Issue, and has been
    >     > posting his findings to Wikipedia. . Wikipedia seems to have been
    >     > "out-editing" him, whenever he would post additions to articles
    >     that
    >     > contradicted IPCC's position. He has found consistent efforts on
    >     teh
    >     > part of Wikipedia to slant postings and views  toward supporting
    >     the
    >     > IPCC position.
    >     >
    >     > Best wishes,
    >     >
    >     > Kevin
    >     >
    >     > Jim Joyner wrote:
    >     >> Gordon,
    >     >>
    >     >> Thanks, I enjoyed watching the video(s). I notice no one here has
    >     >> attempted a refutation to any of his arguments (Well, Sean said
    >     he's
    >     >> a "cherry picker").
    >     >>
    >     >> There was one thing, though, that bothered me after doing a little
    >     >> digging. Bob Carter's research is funded in part by Exxon Mobil
    >     along
    >     >> with AT&T, Avue Technologies, The Coca-Cola Company, General
    >     Motors
    >     >> Corporation, Intel, McDonalds, Merck, Microsoft, Nasdaq, PhRMA,
    >     and
    >     >> Qualcomm .
    >     >>
    >     >> Jim
    >     >>
    >     >> gordon eliott wrote:
    >     >>
    >     >>> yes terra preta is fascinating in itself.
    >     >>> and yes for anyone interested in climate remediation, may i
    >     suggest:
    >     >>>
    >     >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI&feature=related<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI&feature=related>
    >     <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI&feature=related<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI&feature=related>>
    >     >>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI&feature=related<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI&feature=related>
    >     <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI&feature=related<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI&feature=related>>>
    >     >>>
    >     >>> best wishes
    >     >>> gordon eliott
    >     >>>
    >



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