[Terrapreta] Global Warming arguments

[lou gold]

Thanks for the offer of help. I'm presently far away from my spot in
Amazonia, trying to mobilize some people and resources here. The way things
work in Brazil, relationships are always the most important thing -- much
more important than exciting novel ideas. That's what I'm doing now --
mostly relationship building.

Yep, I'll continue to be me on this forum. Our agreements and disagreements
will be lively I hope. But I don't believe in lists of agreements. From my
standpoint it's a conversation, not a negotiation. I think it's a good one.
I like what I see happening here.

hugs,  lou



On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 11:03 AM, Kevin Chisholm <kchisholm at ca.inter.net>
wrote:

>  Dear Lou
>
> I would think that you would agree with me if I said:
>
> "All people on the Terra Preta List are here because:
> A: We want to do good through New Terra Preta. (NTP)
> B: We want to make money from some aspect of New Terra Preta. (NTP)
> C: We want to achieve fame and recognition through NTP
> D: All the above."
>
>
> lou gold wrote:
>
> YES to all, Michael, as long as it does not preclude telling the story
>
>
> We on the TP List are all interested in new information that is relevant to
> the above.  We are all aware of what the IPCC report says, and repetition of
> its message does not bring any new information to the table. Such repetition
> of the IPCC message is both unhelpful and distractionary from our basic
> reasons for being here. What would you think about restricting the stories
> to those that bring new information to the table?
>
> and rationalizing the technologies in ways that maximize the potential for
> capturing carbon credits by all -- including the rich and the poor,
>
>
> This is the TP List... not the "Carbon Credit Capture List". The Rich will
> make money with paper transactions where they trade in Carbon Credits. The
> Poor will benefit primarily from the use of TP as an agricultural
> supplement. Are we more interested in helping the Rich become richer, or the
> Poor to improve their basic quality of life?
>
> as well as the believers and the unbelievers in AGW.
>
>
> What is more important: what we believe, or what we do? If the comfort
> level of "GW Believers" is shaken simply because there are "non-Believers",
> this suggests that the "Believers" are on shaky ground. Lets focus our TP
> List Effort on activities that advance the actual use of NTP.
>
>
> I am quite certain that most skeptics will be happy to avail themselves of
> economic opportunities if they are positioned to do so.
>
>
> Certainly! Anything you can do to help point out, or implement, economic
> opportunities involving NTP will be greatly appreciated!
>
> To recap:
> 1: We already know the IPCC position.
> 2: We already know that payments for Carbon Credits would help make NTP
> more economic
>
> You previously indicated that you are working with a group in Brazil to
> implement a NTP program at a Village or Community level. That is absolutely
> wonderful! What do you need to know that would help them be the success we
> all want them to be?
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Kevin
>
>
> hugs,  lou
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 9:39 AM, Michael Bailes <michaelangelica at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Some global warming links
>> http://geology.com/news/2007/global-warming-cartoon-series-from-npr.shtml
>>
>> Should we agree to disagree about whether Global warming is a fact or not?
>>
>> Surely just saving resources (water, fertiliser ) and increased crop
>> production is enough to be going on with?
>>
>> There are so many debates on -line about whether global warming is
>> happening or not
>> Do we need another here?
>>
>> Regardless, isn't it wise to husband/save our resources despite the
>> predictions of dire gloom?
>>
>> --
>> Michael the Archangel
>> "Politicians will never solve The Problem;
>> because they don't realise they are The Problem.".
>> -Robert ( Bob ) Parsons 1995
>>
>>
>


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