[Terrapreta] Your input needed: "Soil health" at Roundtable on Sustainable Biofuels

[lou gold]

I think we totally agree that the solution takes the form of tying biofuel
production to biochar, waste management and soil restoration. Otherwise it
will be just another "new variable" binge as fossil fuel was.




On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 11:18 PM, Michael Bailes <michaelangelica at gmail.com>
wrote:

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>
>  BIG ENERGY
>
>
> OK
> I just get the feeling that the hysterical anti-biofuels stuff is being
> orchestrated, like the tobacco lobby.
> Certainly there have been some early 'cock-ups' and subsiding corn ethanol
> is a bit stupid.
> (But the more everyone winges about Western- USA, EU, Japan, Korea,
> Aust.-subsidies the more things stay the same).
> Bio-fuels *have *to be a stop-gap measure for the planet, till we invent
> something better.
> Unfortuanely the 'bum rap' biofuels are getting in the States is rubbing
> off on sugar-cane ethanol here.  Only one or two states have mandated 10%
> ethanol and we do not have our own souce of fuel oil. It is all imported.
> Biofuels have the *potential *to take our fuel supplies out of the hands
> of a dozen companies/counties /people and making countless-thousand, little
> businesses and happy farmers.
> m [image: :twocents:]
>
> >
> >
> > It's important to note that the subsidies (or tariffs) for US ethanol go
> > to both oil companies and corn farming. Today, the NY Times editorialized
> > against continued support for US corn ethanol:
> > http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/opinion/11sun1.html?hp
> >
> > On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Michael Bailes <
> > michaelangelica at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > You may be interested in this
> > >
> > > http://hypography.com/forums/terra-preta/11716-what-plants-might-grown-just-bio.html
> > >
> > > Dynamotive is producing Bio-oil from pyrolysis and is experimenting
> > > with it as a soil amendment-fertiliser-additive
> > > Michael
> > >
> > > BIG OIL does not like biofuels; Do they?
> > >
> > > 2008/5/1 Laurens Rademakers <lrademakers at biopact.com>:
> > >
> > > >  Hi,
> > > > I'm part of the Roundtable on Sustainable Biofuels (at the Ecole
> > > > Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne's Energy Center), which is
> > > > developing social, environmental and other sustainability criteria for
> > > > biofuels. It does so in a set of discussion groups
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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> Michael the Archangel
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> because they don't realise they are The Problem.".
> -Robert ( Bob ) Parsons 1995
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