[Terrapreta] Your input needed: "Soil health" at Roundtable onSustainable Biofuels

[Michael Bailes]

"shitfor-brains use "
LOLOLOLOLOOl olololololo:0 :) LOL still laughing LOLOL :)

O dear
Why are we the only intelligent ones????
LOLOLOLO(LOLOl :))

Hydrogen is probably the only answer?
 Then again we could reduce the population of the planet by a billion or
two; and not all expect to ride around in SUVs
m

2008/5/12 Sean K. Barry <sean.barry at juno.com>:

>  Hi Michael,
>
> I just read today, that Minnesota is going to increase the mandated % of
> biodiesel in the diesel fuel supply sold in Minnesota up from 2% to 5% this
> year and then to 10% and 20% within the next five years.
>
> Soy based diesel is another subsidized shitfor-brains use of food crops to
> make fuel, but the subsidies do push the business.
>
> Regards,
>
> SKB
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Michael Bailes <michaelangelica at gmail.com>
> *To:* lou gold <lou.gold at gmail.com> ; Terra Preta<terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>
> *Sent:* Sunday, May 11, 2008 9:18 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [Terrapreta] Your input needed: "Soil health" at Roundtable
> onSustainable Biofuels
>
>
>
>   BIG ENERGY
>
>
> OK
> I just get the feeling that the hysterical anti-biofuels stuff is being
> orchestrated, like the tobacco lobby.
> Certainly there have been some early 'cock-ups' and subsiding corn ethanol
> is a bit stupid.
> (But the more everyone winges about Western- USA, EU, Japan, Korea,
> Aust.-subsidies the more things stay the same).
> Bio-fuels *have *to be a stop-gap measure for the planet, till we invent
> something better.
> Unfortuanely the 'bum rap' biofuels are getting in the States is rubbing
> off on sugar-cane ethanol here.  Only one or two states have mandated 10%
> ethanol and we do not have our own souce of fuel oil. It is all imported.
> Biofuels have the *potential *to take our fuel supplies out of the hands
> of a dozen companies/counties /people and making countless-thousand, little
> businesses and happy farmers.
> m [image: :twocents:]
>
>>
>>
>> It's important to note that the subsidies (or tariffs) for US ethanol go
>> to both oil companies and corn farming. Today, the NY Times editorialized
>> against continued support for US corn ethanol:
>> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/opinion/11sun1.html?hp
>>
>>   On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Michael Bailes <
>> michaelangelica at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>  You may be interested in this
>>>
>>> http://hypography.com/forums/terra-preta/11716-what-plants-might-grown-just-bio.html
>>>
>>> Dynamotive is producing Bio-oil from pyrolysis and is experimenting with
>>> it as a soil amendment-fertiliser-additive
>>> Michael
>>>
>>> BIG OIL does not like biofuels; Do they?
>>>
>>>  2008/5/1 Laurens Rademakers <lrademakers at biopact.com>:
>>>
>>>>  Hi,
>>>> I'm part of the Roundtable on Sustainable Biofuels (at the Ecole
>>>> Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne's Energy Center), which is
>>>> developing social, environmental and other sustainability criteria for
>>>> biofuels. It does so in a set of discussion groups
>>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
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>
>
>
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> Michael the Archangel
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> because they don't realise they are The Problem.".
> -Robert ( Bob ) Parsons 1995
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-- 
Michael the Archangel
"Politicians will never solve The Problem;
because they don't realise they are The Problem.".
-Robert ( Bob ) Parsons 1995
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