[Terrapreta] Your input needed: "Soil health" at Roundtable onSustainable Biofuels

Sean K. Barry sean.barry at juno.com
Sun May 11 21:28:40 CDT 2008


Hi Michael,

I just read today, that Minnesota is going to increase the mandated % of biodiesel in the diesel fuel supply sold in Minnesota up from 2% to 5% this year and then to 10% and 20% within the next five years.

Soy based diesel is another subsidized shitfor-brains use of food crops to make fuel, but the subsidies do push the business.

Regards,

SKB
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Michael Bailes<mailto:michaelangelica at gmail.com> 
  To: lou gold<mailto:lou.gold at gmail.com> ; Terra Preta<mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org> 
  Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 9:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Your input needed: "Soil health" at Roundtable onSustainable Biofuels





     BIG ENERGY 

  OK 

  I just get the feeling that the hysterical anti-biofuels stuff is being orchestrated, like the tobacco lobby.
  Certainly there have been some early 'cock-ups' and subsiding corn ethanol is a bit stupid.
  (But the more everyone winges about Western- USA, EU, Japan, Korea, Aust.-subsidies the more things stay the same).
  Bio-fuels have to be a stop-gap measure for the planet, till we invent something better.
  Unfortuanely the 'bum rap' biofuels are getting in the States is rubbing off on sugar-cane ethanol here.  Only one or two states have mandated 10% ethanol and we do not have our own souce of fuel oil. It is all imported. 
  Biofuels have the potential to take our fuel supplies out of the hands of a dozen companies/counties /people and making countless-thousand, little businesses and happy farmers.
  m 


    It's important to note that the subsidies (or tariffs) for US ethanol go to both oil companies and corn farming. Today, the NY Times editorialized against continued support for US corn ethanol: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/opinion/11sun1.html?hp<http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/opinion/11sun1.html?hp>


    On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Michael Bailes <michaelangelica at gmail.com<mailto:michaelangelica at gmail.com>> wrote:

      You may be interested in this
      http://hypography.com/forums/terra-preta/11716-what-plants-might-grown-just-bio.html<http://hypography.com/forums/terra-preta/11716-what-plants-might-grown-just-bio.html>

      Dynamotive is producing Bio-oil from pyrolysis and is experimenting with it as a soil amendment-fertiliser-additive
      Michael

      BIG OIL does not like biofuels; Do they?


      2008/5/1 Laurens Rademakers <lrademakers at biopact.com<mailto:lrademakers at biopact.com>>:

        Hi,
        I'm part of the Roundtable on Sustainable Biofuels (at the Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne's Energy Center), which is developing social, environmental and other sustainability criteria for biofuels. It does so in a set of discussion groups 



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