[Terrapreta] Your input needed: "Soil health" at RoundtableonSustainable Biofuels

Michael Bailes michaelangelica at gmail.com
Mon May 12 03:50:42 CDT 2008


Ban
F**king?
m:)

2008/5/12 MFH <mfh01 at bigpond.net.au>:

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> "Then again we could reduce the population of the planet by a billion or
> two" – absolutely. How?
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> Max H
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> *From:* terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org [mailto:
> terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org] *On Behalf Of *Michael Bailes
> *Sent:* Monday, 12 May 2008 6:02 PM
> *To:* Sean K. Barry; Terra Preta
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> *Subject:* Re: [Terrapreta] Your input needed: "Soil health" at
> RoundtableonSustainable Biofuels
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> "shitfor-brains use "
> LOLOLOLOLOOl olololololo:0 :) LOL still laughing LOLOL :)
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> O dear
> Why are we the only intelligent ones????
> LOLOLOLO(LOLOl :))
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> Hydrogen is probably the only answer?
>  Then again we could reduce the population of the planet by a billion or
> two; and not all expect to ride around in SUVs
> m
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> 2008/5/12 Sean K. Barry <sean.barry at juno.com>:
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> Hi Michael,
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> I just read today, that Minnesota is going to increase the mandated % of
> biodiesel in the diesel fuel supply sold in Minnesota up from 2% to 5% this
> year and then to 10% and 20% within the next five years.
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> Soy based diesel is another subsidized shitfor-brains use of food crops to
> make fuel, but the subsidies do push the business.
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> Regards,
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> SKB
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>  ----- Original Message -----
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> *From:* Michael Bailes <michaelangelica at gmail.com>
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> *To:* lou gold <lou.gold at gmail.com> ; Terra Preta<terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>
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> *Sent:* Sunday, May 11, 2008 9:18 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: [Terrapreta] Your input needed: "Soil health" at Roundtable
> onSustainable Biofuels
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>  BIG ENERGY
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> OK
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> I just get the feeling that the hysterical anti-biofuels stuff is being
> orchestrated, like the tobacco lobby.
> Certainly there have been some early 'cock-ups' and subsiding corn ethanol
> is a bit stupid.
> (But the more everyone winges about Western- USA, EU, Japan, Korea,
> Aust.-subsidies the more things stay the same).
> Bio-fuels *have *to be a stop-gap measure for the planet, till we invent
> something better.
> Unfortuanely the 'bum rap' biofuels are getting in the States is rubbing
> off on sugar-cane ethanol here.  Only one or two states have mandated 10%
> ethanol and we do not have our own souce of fuel oil. It is all imported.
> Biofuels have the *potential *to take our fuel supplies out of the hands
> of a dozen companies/counties /people and making countless-thousand, little
> businesses and happy farmers.
> m [image: :twocents:]
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> It's important to note that the subsidies (or tariffs) for US ethanol go to
> both oil companies and corn farming. Today, the NY Times editorialized
> against continued support for US corn ethanol:
> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/opinion/11sun1.html?hp
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> On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Michael Bailes <michaelangelica at gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>  You may be interested in this
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> http://hypography.com/forums/terra-preta/11716-what-plants-might-grown-just-bio.html
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> Dynamotive is producing Bio-oil from pyrolysis and is experimenting with it
> as a soil amendment-fertiliser-additive
> Michael
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> BIG OIL does not like biofuels; Do they?
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> 2008/5/1 Laurens Rademakers <lrademakers at biopact.com>:
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>  Hi,
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> I'm part of the Roundtable on Sustainable Biofuels (at the Ecole
> Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne's Energy Center), which is developing
> social, environmental and other sustainability criteria for biofuels. It
> does so in a set of discussion groups
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Michael the Archangel
"Politicians will never solve The Problem;
because they don't realise they are The Problem.".
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