[Terrapreta] Your input needed: "Soil health" atRoundtableonSustainable Biofuels

[Sean K. Barry]

Hi Michael, Max,

Population control is underway in places like China already, right?  Don't they have a two child maximum per couple?  ANd why a precience for girls versus boys I don't know.  Maybe its girls who are better able to manage that "Ban f**cking" rule?  I could suspect this will become more and more of a reality in many places (with military or tyrannical rule).  I think that populations suffering from high mortality rates under food stress do the opposite, however.  Starving people, it seems, can breed themselves right into extinction.  This is one of the "bennies" of living that we in the developed world have given as a gift to the developing world.

What will you and your mate do, if your children were dying of hunger and thirst?

Regards,

SKB
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  From: Michael Bailes<mailto:michaelangelica at gmail.com> 
  To: MFH<mailto:mfh01 at bigpond.net.au> ; Terra Preta<mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org> 
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  Ban
  F**king?
  m:)


  2008/5/12 MFH <mfh01 at bigpond.net.au<mailto:mfh01 at bigpond.net.au>>:



    "Then again we could reduce the population of the planet by a billion or two" – absolutely. How?



    Max H




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    "shitfor-brains use "
    LOLOLOLOLOOl olololololo:0 :) LOL still laughing LOLOL :)

    O dear
    Why are we the only intelligent ones????
    LOLOLOLO(LOLOl :))

    Hydrogen is probably the only answer?
     Then again we could reduce the population of the planet by a billion or two; and not all expect to ride around in SUVs
    m

    2008/5/12 Sean K. Barry <sean.barry at juno.com<mailto:sean.barry at juno.com>>:

    Hi Michael,



    I just read today, that Minnesota is going to increase the mandated % of biodiesel in the diesel fuel supply sold in Minnesota up from 2% to 5% this year and then to 10% and 20% within the next five years.



    Soy based diesel is another subsidized shitfor-brains use of food crops to make fuel, but the subsidies do push the business.



    Regards,



    SKB

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      From: Michael Bailes<mailto:michaelangelica at gmail.com> 

      To: lou gold<mailto:lou.gold at gmail.com> ; Terra Preta<mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org> 

      Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 9:18 PM

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         BIG ENERGY 



      OK 

      I just get the feeling that the hysterical anti-biofuels stuff is being orchestrated, like the tobacco lobby.
      Certainly there have been some early 'cock-ups' and subsiding corn ethanol is a bit stupid.
      (But the more everyone winges about Western- USA, EU, Japan, Korea, Aust.-subsidies the more things stay the same).
      Bio-fuels have to be a stop-gap measure for the planet, till we invent something better.
      Unfortuanely the 'bum rap' biofuels are getting in the States is rubbing off on sugar-cane ethanol here.  Only one or two states have mandated 10% ethanol and we do not have our own souce of fuel oil. It is all imported. 
      Biofuels have the potential to take our fuel supplies out of the hands of a dozen companies/counties /people and making countless-thousand, little businesses and happy farmers.
      m 



        It's important to note that the subsidies (or tariffs) for US ethanol go to both oil companies and corn farming. Today, the NY Times editorialized against continued support for US corn ethanol: http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/opinion/11sun1.html?hp<http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/opinion/11sun1.html?hp>

        On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Michael Bailes <michaelangelica at gmail.com<mailto:michaelangelica at gmail.com>> wrote:

          You may be interested in this
          http://hypography.com/forums/terra-preta/11716-what-plants-might-grown-just-bio.html<http://hypography.com/forums/terra-preta/11716-what-plants-might-grown-just-bio.html>

          Dynamotive is producing Bio-oil from pyrolysis and is experimenting with it as a soil amendment-fertiliser-additive
          Michael

          BIG OIL does not like biofuels; Do they?

          2008/5/1 Laurens Rademakers <lrademakers at biopact.com<mailto:lrademakers at biopact.com>>:

            Hi,

            I'm part of the Roundtable on Sustainable Biofuels (at the Ecole Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne's Energy Center), which is developing social, environmental and other sustainability criteria for biofuels. It does so in a set of discussion groups 



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