[Terrapreta] DOes charcoal absorb Glyphosphate? Off POST

[MFH]

Sean - something along the line of:

 

"What I can't stand is intolerance?"

 

M

 

 

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From: Sean K. Barry [mailto:sean.barry at juno.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, 27 May 2008 11:17 PM
To: 'David Yarrow'; terrapreta at bioenergylists.org; MFH
Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] DOes charcoal absorb Glyphosphate?

 

Hi Max,

 

You say:

However, charcoal is ineffective against metals, Na, K, alcohols, glycols,
acids, and alkalis." Its use is also widespread amongst animal farmers. 

There has of recent been discussion and concern on this list about whether
Roundup (Glyphosphate) will be absorbed by charcoal and still remain
effective.  I do not know the chemistry of this, but is it possible that
your statement above relating to glycols may be an answer that NO
Glyphosphate will not be absorbed by charcoal?   I don't know who could
answer this really.  Maybe is just needs to be tested.  Should I pour some
roundup onto soil containing charcoal and see if it will never grow anything
ever again?  If you pour Roundup on bare soil it won't stop weed seeds from
growing.  It has to be poured on the plant leaves themselves and it "wears
out" its effectiveness over time.

 

Monsanto is a French company (US ,too), but it bring to mind a Michael Caine
line in the Mike Myers movie ....   "There are two things I can't stand;
intolerance for other cultures and the French! (Dutch)"

 

Regards,

 

SKB

----- Original Message ----- 

From: MFH <mailto:mfh01 at bigpond.net.au>  

To: 'David Yarrow' <mailto:dyarrow at nycap.rr.com>  ;
terrapreta at bioenergylists.org 

Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 3:56 AM

Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] why is carbon black?

 

Interesting.

Given the current propensity for litigation it's reasonable to assume that
the manufacturers of the Solo knapsacks can back this up.

Activated charcoal is used to absorb poisons in people, e.g. " Activated
charcoal is the treatment of choice to prevent absorption of the poison. It
is usually administered when the patient is in the emergency room. However,
charcoal is ineffective against metals, Na, K, alcohols, glycols, acids, and
alkalis." Its use is also widespread amongst animal farmers. 

Does it adsorb or absorb glyphosphate? And does it "neutralise" or simply
adsorb and then eliminate the poisons from the body during the normal waste
cycle?  I'd tend to think the latter.

Max H


-----Original Message-----
From: terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org
[mailto:terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of David Yarrow
Sent: Tuesday, 27 May 2008 7:15 AM
To: terrapreta at bioenergylists.org
Subject: [Terrapreta] why is carbon black?

i am always amused when affirmations of truth come from unexpected, often 
from "the other side."

so, i bought a solo backpack syrayer so i can carry around a reasonable 
supply of liquid sea minerals, seaweed, EM, and compost tea solutions to 
spray on soil, vegetation, piles of biomass, and tree trunks.  i will devote

most of this year to spraying my 1.3 acres, but i'd like to visit a few 
champion trees and old growth forests for special treatments.  and every 
batch of fresh biochar will get sprayed and steam-treated.

anyway, i'm reading several pages of fine print instructions.  one section 
describes procedures to rinse the tank after reach use, and the need for 
special handling, disposal and training when using hazardous chemicals. 
when using the backpack sprayer for herbicide, the instruction say that to 
remove any residue of herbicide from the tank and pump, put a dilute 
solution of activated charcoal dust in the tank, pump it through the 
nozzzle, then let it sit in the tank, pump and hose for a minimum time. 
then rinse with clean water.

so, charcoal is the remedy to soak up and remove any biotoxic oily residues 
such as herbicides.

hmmm....  i wonder if we can do that in soils????????

where else?

what else can this black carbon do?

anyone want to spin black carbon into fiber?

for a green & peaceful planet,
David Yarrow
44 Gilligan Rd, E Greenbush, NY 12061
www.championtrees.org
www.OnondagaLakePeaceFestival.org
www.farmandfood.org
www.SeaAgri.com 


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