[Terrapreta] Government funding for Aust TP trials.

[lou gold]

 Hi again,

Perhaps this will help ....
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>  I am subject to the current framework of scientific journal publications
> > as is the rest of the scientific community. To maintain a scientific
> > standard I don't see how this peer review process as slow as it may be will
> > be transformed in the near future. Once you publish with a journal they bear
> > the costs of the process, so is it unreasonable for them to charge? If there
> > is a credible journal that makes articles available I will certainly look at
> > publishing with them.
> >
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> >





>
> >
> > *To:* Adriana Downie
> > *Cc:* Michael Bailes; Terrapreta
> > *Subject:* Re: [Terrapreta] Government funding for Aust TP trials.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Everyone,
> >
> > I would like elaborate on my questions to Adriana.
> > Here is my predicament: as a would-be terra preta enthusiast/evangelist
> > living in Brazil, I find that I often do not have access to publications
> > that I would like to read. The two main terra preta books are now available
> > through Amazon.com for a mere U$ 314 http://www.amazon.com/Amazonian-Dark-Earths-Properties-Management/dp/1402018398/ref=pd_bxgy_b_text_b
> >
> > or I can read other papers for a fee through services such as JSTOR. In
> > practical effect, this means that I do not have access. So, when I am told
> > that there will be a new Biochar book and new papers in journals I wonder if
> > I will ever gain access to them.
> >
> > My general understanding is that this is no small problem in regard to
> > the intellectual property notions of modern science. Perhaps, some will
> > think that this is a side issue but in my view it seems especially pertinent
> > as we push for more global research and publication on terra preta
> > applications.
> >
> > See the following piece about the work of James Boyle...
> > * A web without science …<http://sciencecommons.org/weblog/archives/2007/09/04/a-web-without-science/>
> > *
> >
> > September 4th, 2007
> >
> > James Boyle <http://www.law.duke.edu/boylesite/>'s latest column in The
> > Financial Times <http://www.ft.com/> - "The irony of a web without
> > science"<http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/39166e30-5a7f-11dc-9bcd-0000779fd2ac.html>- examines how the  lessons learned from the world wide web can and should
> > be applied to the sciences. From research funding to commercial publishing,
> > Boyle posits that the capabilities made available through the advent of the
> > Web and its design are not adequately being applied to scientific research.
> >
> > Boyle writes:
> >
> > "The greatest irony, though, is this. The world wide web was designed in
> > a scientific laboratory to facilitate access to scientific knowledge. In
> > every other area of life - commerce, social networking, pornography - it has
> > been a smashing success. But in the world of science itself? With the
> > virtues of an open web all around us, we have proceeded to build an endless
> > set of walled gardens, something that looks a lot like Compuserv or Minitel
> > and very little like a world wide web for science."
> >
> > The article notes a key element of Science Commons philosophy -  the
> > almost-mythical "e-research" world, where collaboration is the norm and  we
> > design our systems for the network. Meaningful e-research is going to
> > require a fundamental redefinition of infrastructure. Infrastructure is more
> > than just ethernet and fiberoptic cable. Content is part of the
> > infrastructure, too, and likely the underlying ICT infrastructure content
> > needs to be open by default and governed by open, standard protocols. We
> > won't get to the e-research future any other way.
> >
> > Please see the Neurocommons pages<http://sciencecommons.org/projects/data/>for a sense of what an e-research project looks like. If only we had as much
> > access to the literature online as we do to digital data …
> >
> > You can read Boyle's article in its entirety here<http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/39166e30-5a7f-11dc-9bcd-0000779fd2ac.html>.
> > Boyle is a William Neal Reynolds professor at Duke Law School
> > <http://www.law.duke.edu/>, and a co-founder of Science Commons<http://sciencecommons.org/>.
> > He also sits on the Creative Commons <http://creativecommons.org/>board.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Dec 17, 2007 9:17 PM, lou gold <lou.gold at gmail.com > wrote:
> >
> > Adriana,
> >
> > I pleased that the final papers will be available to the general public.
> >
> > Perhaps your missed my question? Will the data bases and research be
> > governed by open access protocols such as are being set in place at
> > http://sciencecommons.org/weblog/ ?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > lou
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >  On Dec 17, 2007 8:52 PM, Adriana Downie < adriana at bestenergies.com.au >
> > wrote:
> >
> > Lou,
> >
> >
> >
> > We are in the process of publishing several research papers based on the
> > work in a range of journals. Some of the finding are also to be included in
> > the Biochar book which is being compiled by Johannes Lehmann . We will also
> > be presenting some of the results at the upcoming IBI conference in
> > Newcastle , UK for which the papers will be publicly available.
> >
> >
> >
> > It is not our intention to keep this work a secret. The more
> > scientifically rigorous and peer reviewed results we can get out the better.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Adriana.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* lou gold [mailto:lou.gold at gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Tuesday, 18 December 2007 9:36 AM
> > *To:* Adriana Downie
> > *Cc:* Michael Bailes; Terrapreta
> > *Subject:* Re: [Terrapreta] Government funding for Aust TP trials.
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Adriana,
> >
> > Sounds like a wonderful thing to support. We need much char research.
> >
> > One question: how will the data, research findings, etc be licensed?
> >
> > Will they be under an Open Source protocol?
> > http://creativecommons.org/
> >
> > Or, will they be governed by a conventional copyright?
> >
> > Thanks for all of you good work.
> >
> > lou
> >
> > On Dec 17, 2007 7:54 PM, Adriana Downie < adriana at bestenergies.com.au>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Michael….and those who want to help via email,
> >
> >
> >
> > Your criticism (below) of lack of government support is not entirely
> > justified. The trials that BEST has paid for at the NSW DPI has been done
> > partly through funding we have through the NSW Department of Environment and
> > Climate Change (DECC). BEST Energies (directly and through their clients)
> > and the NSW DPI have also contributed cash and in-kind but it would have
> > been a lot harder without the government support for which we are very
> > grateful.
> >
> >
> >
> > I encourage those on the list with some time, to write an email of
> > congratulations to the DECC for supporting this important work and to
> > encourage them to continue and expand the funding that they have provided in
> > this area. I have included the contacts below. All they ask out of this is
> > to get some recognition so please feel free to give them some and hopefully
> > this will help pave the way for more TP work in NSW.
> >
> >
> >
> > *Elizabeth Lechlein*
> >
> > Grants Administrator
> >
> > Department of Environment and Climate Change
> >
> > PO Box 644 Parramatta NSW 2124
> >
> > Level 2, 1 Fitzwilliam Street
> >
> > Parramatta NSW 2150
> >
> > elizabeth.lechlein at environment.nsw.gov.au
> >
> > Ph: (02) 8837 6038  Fax: (02) 8837 6099
> >
> >
> >
> > *Lisa Corbyn*
> >
> > *Director General - DECC*
> >
> > * Lisa.corbyn at environment.nsw.gov.au *
> >
> > 59-61 Goulburn Street, Sydney
> > PO Box A290, Sydney South NSW 1232
> > Phone: +61 2 9995 5000
> >
> >
> >
> > Mr Philip Koperberg,
> >
> > NSW Minister for Climate Change Environment and Water
> > Level 35 Governor Macquarie Tower,
> > 1 Farrer Place,
> > SYDNEY NSW 2000
> >
> > Phone 9228 5488 Fax 9228 5766
> >
> > Email office at koperberg.minister.nsw.gov.au
> >
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Adriana Downie
> >
> > BEST Energies Australia
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > *From:* Michael Bailes [mailto:michaelangelica at gmail.com]
> > *Sent:* Monday, 17 December 2007 1:49 PM
> > *To:* naomi luckett; Terrapreta
> > *Subject:* Re: [Terrapreta] NZ leading the way
> >
> >
> >
> > I buddied up with a lovely kiwi at the IAI Confrence at Terrigal.
> >  He was from NZ DEPT of Primary Industries. I have forgotten his name
> > and unfortunately lost his details. He said the NZ Govt was very worried
> > about GHGs especially methane from burping (He did say burping) cows.
> > I only saw a couple of other 'PI' people from NSW and the ONLY
> > Journalist was Kelpie Wilson.
> > The Confrence got no running in the press at all.
> >
> > There have been some NSW pot studies done by NSW Agi Department - fully
> > or partially funded by BEST Energies (You get nothing for free from the NSW
> > Govt.-- and do they charge!).
> > In my view BEST should be flogging their technology not researching and
> > funding char experiments-The Government should be doing this!
> >  NSW DPI even has a "GHG" Executive.
> > If nothing else Australian Governments should be funding studies on
> > Char's water saving potential. It seems the "water saving" crystals/polymers
> > are fairly useless and expensive.
> > MA
> >
> > On 17/12/2007, *naomi luckett* <naomiluckett at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > News from New Zealand,
> >
> >
> >
> > Published today in the New Zealand Herald...
> >
> >
> >
> > RESEARCH
> >
> > Roles focus on charcoal's benefits
> >
> >
> >
> >
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