[Terrapreta] Fwd: Soil improvement from oil ?

[Michael Bailes]

Thanks Sean
I have put it here
http://forums.permaculture.org.au/sutra31231.php#31231
and
http://forums.hypography.com/earth-science/9479-organic-farming-feasible-5.html#post176495

I agree we don't have enough oil to put on soil. but in away we are doing
that with fertilisers, chemicals, diesel for the tractor, etc. Our whole
society is built around the stuff.

I didn't see that article on bio-oils and soil. It was a thought that came
to me at the IAI conference.
 I agree you would predict that only minute amounts would be needed. But it
would be interesting to see some research on it.

Re oil as a soil amendment  see
[The influence of diesel fuel oil on the number of bacteria, fungi,
actinomycetes and soil microbial biomass]
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/sites/entrez?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=7481509&dopt=Abstract
and
Phytoremediation of Soil Contaminated with Used Motor Oil
http://www.liebertonline.com/doi/abs/10.1089/109287504773087336

> Bacteria were the most abundant microbial group in oil-contaminated soil
> (factor 108) compared to actinomycetes and fungi (107 and 106,
> respectively). Soil microbial populations experienced exponential growth
> until 50 days, after which numbers returned to precontamination levels
>
I think most of the research has been on isolating microorganisms to mop up
oil spills rather than oil as a "fertiliser"
perhaps there may be possibilities of using "waste," 'used' oil (Is there
anymore) as a soil amendment
On 02/06/07, Sean K. Barry <sean.barry at juno.com> wrote:
>
>  Hi Michael,
>
> Yes, certainly.  You could post it there and tell any of them to send any
> comments they might have my direction (sean.barry at juno.com).
>
> Yeah, there is a Dynamotive project in Iowa (or being planned), where they
> will make bio-oil from corn stover and they will be trying to determine if
> the bio-oil can be used as a soil enhancing, soil amendment.  I'm thinking
> it might need to be a very light application, because, for comparison, there
> is only a small percentage of bio-oil, volatile mater, etc in charcoal.  It
> will be interesting to see what they come up with.
>
> That article that talked about this was in Grist, maybe?
>
> SKB
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Michael Bailes <michaelangelica at gmail.com>
> *To:* terrapreta <terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>
> *Sent:* Friday, June 01, 2007 4:10 PM
> *Subject:* [Terrapreta] Fwd: Soil improvement from oil ?
>
>
>
> Thanks Shan,
> Can I re-post your analysis on the permaculture and hypography "organic
> gardening" forums?
>
> Do you think natural fertilisers such as 'blood and bone' be a better deal
> for the environment?
>
> If "wee beasties" grow on the resins and bio-oils on charcoal.
>  Could bio-oil be used as a soil amendment?
> This is the question I asked the people in the States making bio-oil
> (Dynamaotive?)
>
> You may be interested in this thread on Coal as a soil amendment.
>   http://forums.hypography.com/terra-preta/11638-coal-soil-amendment.html
>
>
>
> >
> > Soil from oil?  Do you mean better soil using the energy obtained from
> > oil?  Or do you mean a direct amendment of oil or a petroleum based product
> > put into soil to improve its characteristics?
> >
> >
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