[Terrapreta] CCS-Caps and trade or Carbon tax (where is buried charcoal?)

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     from  Lewis L Smith

Quite a few years ago, I worked on a carbon-tax proposal which was 
presented to Congress.

[ It was not approved !  At the time, crude oil was around $25 per 
barrel.  ]

My recall is that this is tricky subject. If, to keep collections 
simple, you impose it as close to "the mine mouth" as possible, the end 
result can sometimes be quite unexpected and disconcerting, in terms of 
increases in the prices of specific final goods and services, as the 
carbon wends its way through the labyrinth of economic relationships.

On the other hand, if one imposes it farther "downstream" [ as they say 
in the oil industry ] it can become fairly difficult to calculate the 
"carbon content" of a given good or service.

I'm sure that there is a great deal of literature on how to deal with 
this problem, some of it with sound advice, a literature which I have 
studiously avoided reading after my "baptism of fire" !

However, the foregoing is a point to keep in mind.

Cordially. ###








-----Original Message-----
From: lou gold <lou.gold at gmail.com>
To: Larry Williams <lwilliams at nas.com>
Cc: Miles Tom <terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>
Sent: Sun, Nov 4  3:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] CCS-Caps and trade or Carbon tax (where is 
buried charcoal?)

NY City Mayor Michael Bloomberg (who is or will be in the running for 
US President) recently
called for a carbon tax as preferable to cap and trade. Seems like it 
may become a Conservative
rallying point. Here is the full story:


http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/11/02/bloomberg-calls-for-tax-on-carbon-emissions/





On Nov 4, 2007 5:59 PM, Larry Williams lwilliams at nas.com> wrote:

Consideration for the sequestering of atmospheric carbon by using
prepared charcoal is missing in these video's. Have they discounted
the potential benefit of buried charcoal or are they unaware of using
charcoal as a carbon capture technology? Maybe we should look at

their funding sources to understand their solutions.

What seemed clear is the a carbon tax serves a stable situation (a
known cost) for business interests over an unstable value for carbon
found with a cap and trade policy. As we work to understand how to

recreate a "nova" version of Terra Preta in our own areas, the big
boys are trying to set polices in place. Does that mean small
charcoal producers will not be seen as viable. If the parameters are

stringent then will the small producers be able to afford the
paperwork or requirements (unspecified at this time) to do business?

Does a portion of this group need to spend time tracking policy
makers? Or should they be ignored ( a "they will fail to act in time"

thought)? Is this forum the model that provides for the most
innovative research?-------Larry




1) WRI's (World Resource Institute) Venezia discusses new report on
carbon capture and sequestration

@ http://www.eenews.net/tv/video_guide/693?page=1&amp;sort_type=date

2) A Snapshot of Selected .S. Energy Options Today: Climate Change

and Energy Impacts and Tradeoffs in 2025 @  http://images.wri.org/
usenergy2025_big.gif

3) America's Climate Security Act (S. 2191) @ http://

climate.alston.com/blog.aspx?entry=108

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