[Terrapreta] Subject: Re: An interesting conversation on CO2 ifinterested

[Sean K. Barry]

Hi Bakary,

Thank you for sharing the www.vetiver.org<http://www.vetiver.org/> site.  That first picture with the 3 meter roots is just amazing!  It is easy to see that the Vevitar Grass is very effective at erosion control.  I liked the side view picture too, of the site 4 slope in Malaysia, which was turned into a terrace in 30 months.  That "Overview" photo essay is a compelling visual introduction.

Regards,

SKB
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: bakaryjatta<mailto:bakaryj at gamtel.gm> 
  To: terrapreta at bioenergylists.org<mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org> 
  Sent: Monday, November 12, 2007 11:39 AM
  Subject: [Terrapreta] Subject: Re: An interesting conversation on CO2 ifinterested


  Dear lou and list members,

  If we link TP and sequestering CO2 with Agricultural systems, let us go a 
  step
  further. Soil erosion is a major disaster world wide, especially when people
  are trying to farm marginal lands on side hills and other problem sites. A 
  successful technology
  introduced in many countries is the use of Vetiver grass to make low contour
  bunds permanent. It is not invasive and is a survivor. It traps soil and 
  debris and breaks the force of run off water.
  The grass has roots that penetrate soil to a depth of up to
  three meters. It gets established within a short time and it probably
  sequesters CO2 more effectively than several other plant species. Add some
  biochar when planting to optimize the process right from the start and you
  have added another plus to increased agricultural production. For more info
  about the technology go to www.vetiver.org<http://www.vetiver.org/> .

  Kind regards,

  Bakary Jatta

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  > Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2007 08:23:11 -0200
  > From: "lou gold" <lou.gold at gmail.com<mailto:lou.gold at gmail.com>>
  >> To: "Michael Bailes" <michaelangelica at gmail.com<mailto:michaelangelica at gmail.com>>
  > Cc: Terrapreta <terrapreta at bioenergylists.org<mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>>
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  > Yes, interesting discussion at the forum.
  > I tried to register to participate but couldn't figure out how?
  > Oh well, perhaps it's best for me not to get pulled into yet
  > another conversation (heheh).
  >
  > Two points about calculating human impact in terms of CO2,
  > a big one and a strong quibble:
  >
  > The quibble is that it is completely wrong to say that replanting trees
  > balances
  > CO2 release through deforestation. Yes, young trees have faster pull down
  > of CO2 but they must grow to the age of the ancient forest that was cut in
  > order
  > to sequester as much carbon.
  >
  > The big point is very simple -- natural ecosystems can hold 20 - 100 times
  > more CO2
  > per unit area than agricultural systems. Human populations need
  > agriculture.
  > Population
  > increase expands agriculture. Huge amounts of CO2 are released quite
  > independent of
  > human or industrial "emissions" just because we eat.
  >
  > TERRA PRETA TO THE RESCUE -- CREATE AN AGRICULTURE THAT HOLDS MORE CARBON
  >
  > Which leads me to something that I'm coming to appreciate more and more.
  > Terra Preta is not simply a method to achieve a more efficient form of btu
  > exchanges, a new balance between generation and exhaust, more food from
  > less
  > input and less waste, etc.
  >
  > It is a paradigm shift from the extractive agriculture of modern
  > civilization which is based on extraction (mining the soil) to a
  > restorative
  > agriculture that holds the promise of healing both nature and people.
  > This is the new dream of the earth!
  >
  > Well ... I believe it.
  > I suspect that some of you do as well.
  >
  > hugs,
  >
  > lou
  >
  >
  >
  >
  >
  > On Nov 12, 2007 6:40 AM, Michael Bailes <michaelangelica at gmail.com<mailto:michaelangelica at gmail.com>> wrote:
  >
  >> An interesting conversation on CO2 if interested
  >> http://forums.hypography.com/environmental-studies/13337-co2.html<http://forums.hypography.com/environmental-studies/13337-co2.html>
  >>
  >> --
  >> Michael the Archangel
  >>
  >> "You can fix all the world's problems in a garden. . . .
  >> Most people don't know that"
  >> FROM
  >> http://www.blog.thesietch.org/wp-content/permaculture.swf<http://www.blog.thesietch.org/wp-content/permaculture.swf>
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