[Terrapreta] Pure Organics Vs. Biological Agriculture

[David Yarrow]

the cost of crude is now $82/barrel and still floating upwards.  the cost may dip now and then, but it's inevitable trend is upwards and never likely to come down again.  and we ain't ready, nor are we undertaking the basic actions to get ready.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jon C. Frank 
  To: David Yarrow 
  Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2007 12:00 PM
  Subject: RE: [Terrapreta] Pure Organics Vs. Biological Agriculture


  Great post David,

  If the economics of biofuels is cheaper than oil or coal based fuels we will be in business.  Does anyone have a cost comparison of this?

  Jon
    -----Original Message-----
    From: terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org [mailto:terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org]On Behalf Of David Yarrow
    Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 8:53 PM
    To: terrapreta at bioenergylists.org
    Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Pure Organics Vs. Biological Agriculture


    there is a third reason to explore TP that has little to do with soil:
    3) charcoal production offers a carbon negative pathway to produe biofuels to replace fossil fuels.

    don't forget 3), because therein lies the critical economic factor to make this strategy profitable.

    here in NY, all municipalities are required to separate organic matter from their waste streams.  most municipalities operate composting facilities to convert grass clippings, brush, tree trimmings, chipped stumps, pallets, and other wood waste into black compost.  near here, the city of albany gives tons of this compost away to residents; what isn't sold by winter is sold to scott's for $2/ton.

    installing a pyrolysis plant could permit these municipalities to produce charcoal and biofuel to heat their buildings and power their fleet of vehicles.

    for rural areas, farmer coops can use pyrolysis and TP to allow farmers to become four F producers: 
    food, fiber, fuel & fertility.

    David Yarrow
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      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Sean K. Barry 
      Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2007 7:25 PM
      Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Pure Organics Vs. Biological Agriculture



      I would say, though (and you have pointed this out yourself recently), there are two camps in here about Terra Preta; 1) those that want it for its enhanced agricultural benefit, and 2) those that want this for carbon sequestration.
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