[Terrapreta] Earthen Kiln Conjecture

lou gold lou.gold at gmail.com
Sat Apr 19 00:39:49 CDT 2008


I wish I did (own a carbon trading company).

On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 2:33 AM, Kevin Chisholm <kchisholm at ca.inter.net>
wrote:

> Dear Sean
>
> Sean K. Barry wrote:
> > Hi Kevin,
> >
> > I basically look at criticism of the IPCC and its reports by a few
> > people as "hogshit".  There is fervent support from the vast majority
> > of 1500+ member scientists involved with the IPCC.  Their considered
> > opinion outweighs the radically different views of the few.  You do
> > not like consensus, but there it is, 90-97% sure, not absolutely, just
> > high probability.  That is bluntly stated, and the thought is
> > built/supported by high probability estimates ("90-97% sure") from
> > 1500+ IPCC member scientists (higher statistical significance) versus
> > the claims of a handful of nay-sayers (lower statistical
> > significance).  They "cherry-pick" data to try and make it say what
> > they want to believe it says, because they can find no one who agrees
> > with them from the outset.
>
> The Writers whole point seems to be that the IPCC selected the
> Scientists  who gave them the answers they wanted, and payed no heed to
> those who held a differing opinion. Why don't you write him and get the
> details first hand?
> >
> > I think conspiracies are a game in the realm of the few and the
> > financially incentivized, or with "scientist-come-wannabes", not of
> > the many and the experienced, and not of the independent.  Independent
> > support of AGW is evident.  Criticism of AGW is bought.
>
> You make a very good case for the IPCC to be part of a conspiracy. A few
> people and corporations stand to make a lot of money if the IPCC
> recommendations are followed and "carbon trading" comes about in a
> bigger way. I understand, for example, that Al Gore owns a carbon
> trading company.
>
> Kevin
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > SKB
> >
> >     ----- Original Message -----
> >     *From:* Jim Joyner <mailto:jimstoy at dtccom.net>
> >     *To:* terra pretta group <mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>
> >     *Sent:* Friday, April 18, 2008 9:50 PM
> >     *Subject:* Re: [Terrapreta] Earthen Kiln Conjecture
> >
> >     Thanks Kevin.
> >
> >     I'm not a conspiracy person (basically, I don't believe that the
> >     people
> >     of a mentality to bring off such things ultimately have the
> >     competence
> >     to do so), but this is all beginning to look like some sort of grand
> >     scheme to foist GW on us as a distraction from the real problems
> >     of the
> >     world.
> >
> >     Please, no one argue with me, I yield in advance.
> >
> >     Jim
> >
> >     Kevin Chisholm wrote:
> >     > Dear Jim
> >     >
> >     > Another interesting article on attempts to falsely support the
> IPCC
> >     > stance on Climate Change is here:
> >     >
> >     http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=440268&p=1
> >     <http://www.nationalpost.com/todays_paper/story.html?id=440268&p=1>
> >     >
> >     > Basically, a Writer has been researching the Issue, and has been
> >     > posting his findings to Wikipedia. . Wikipedia seems to have been
> >     > "out-editing" him, whenever he would post additions to articles
> >     that
> >     > contradicted IPCC's position. He has found consistent efforts on
> >     teh
> >     > part of Wikipedia to slant postings and views  toward supporting
> >     the
> >     > IPCC position.
> >     >
> >     > Best wishes,
> >     >
> >     > Kevin
> >     >
> >     > Jim Joyner wrote:
> >     >> Gordon,
> >     >>
> >     >> Thanks, I enjoyed watching the video(s). I notice no one here has
> >     >> attempted a refutation to any of his arguments (Well, Sean said
> >     he's
> >     >> a "cherry picker").
> >     >>
> >     >> There was one thing, though, that bothered me after doing a
> little
> >     >> digging. Bob Carter's research is funded in part by Exxon Mobil
> >     along
> >     >> with AT&T, Avue Technologies, The Coca-Cola Company, General
> >     Motors
> >     >> Corporation, Intel, McDonalds, Merck, Microsoft, Nasdaq, PhRMA,
> >     and
> >     >> Qualcomm .
> >     >>
> >     >> Jim
> >     >>
> >     >> gordon eliott wrote:
> >     >>
> >     >>> yes terra preta is fascinating in itself.
> >     >>> and yes for anyone interested in climate remediation, may i
> >     suggest:
> >     >>>
> >     >>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI&feature=related
> >     <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI&feature=related>
> >     >>> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI&feature=related
> >     <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FOLkze-9GcI&feature=related>>
> >     >>>
> >     >>> best wishes
> >     >>> gordon eliott
> >     >>>
> >
>
>
>
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