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[MFH]

I think that the suggestion wasn't so much about fornication and the
resultant attempts to the limiting of subsequent offspring, but more aimed
at how around 2 billion of the current volume can be retired. Now and
permanently. And without adding to CO2 levels.

 

Irrespective, perhaps I have misunderstood your comments, but there is a
strong preference for male offspring amongst many cultures, and this is
essentially from an economic base. Serious chauvinism stuff here.

 

And you're correct in your analogies to stress and breeding. Birth rates in
countries at war increase substantially. And similarly in economic
depressions.  There weren't too many childless couples in "Grapes of Wrath".

 

>From another viewpoint, plants react to stress by trying to maximise
production of offspring. So, we are different from plants? - tell me.

 

When I was a kid and with relatives on another farm with mangoes, and in a
year when the fruit didn't appear to be setting as hoped, Uncle Bill took
his axe and whacked a couple of cuts into the trunk of every mature mango. A
couple of weeks later and there were fruit buds galore. Simple 'survival of
the species' stuff.

 

M

 

 

 

 

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From: Sean K. Barry [mailto:sean.barry at juno.com] 
Sent: Monday, 12 May 2008 11:05 PM
To: MFH; Terra Preta; Michael Bailes
Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Your input needed: "Soil health"
atRoundtableonSustainable Biofuels

 

Hi Michael, Max,

 

Population control is underway in places like China already, right?  Don't
they have a two child maximum per couple?  ANd why a precience for girls
versus boys I don't know.  Maybe its girls who are better able to manage
that "Ban f**cking" rule?  I could suspect this will become more and more of
a reality in many places (with military or tyrannical rule).  I think that
populations suffering from high mortality rates under food stress do the
opposite, however.  Starving people, it seems, can breed themselves right
into extinction.  This is one of the "bennies" of living that we in the
developed world have given as a gift to the developing world.

 

What will you and your mate do, if your children were dying of hunger and
thirst?

 

Regards,

 

SKB

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From: Michael Bailes <mailto:michaelangelica at gmail.com>  

To: MFH <mailto:mfh01 at bigpond.net.au>  ; Terra Preta
<mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>  

Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 3:50 AM

Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Your input needed: "Soil health"
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Ban
F**king?
m:)

2008/5/12 MFH <mfh01 at bigpond.net.au>:

 

"Then again we could reduce the population of the planet by a billion or
two" - absolutely. How?

 

Max H

 


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[mailto:terrapreta-bounces at bioenergylists.org] On Behalf Of Michael Bailes
Sent: Monday, 12 May 2008 6:02 PM
To: Sean K. Barry; Terra Preta 


Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Your input needed: "Soil health" at
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"shitfor-brains use "
LOLOLOLOLOOl olololololo:0 :) LOL still laughing LOLOL :)

O dear
Why are we the only intelligent ones????
LOLOLOLO(LOLOl :))

Hydrogen is probably the only answer?
 Then again we could reduce the population of the planet by a billion or
two; and not all expect to ride around in SUVs
m

2008/5/12 Sean K. Barry <sean.barry at juno.com>:

Hi Michael,

 

I just read today, that Minnesota is going to increase the mandated % of
biodiesel in the diesel fuel supply sold in Minnesota up from 2% to 5% this
year and then to 10% and 20% within the next five years.

 

Soy based diesel is another subsidized shitfor-brains use of food crops to
make fuel, but the subsidies do push the business.

 

Regards,

 

SKB

----- Original Message ----- 

From: Michael Bailes <mailto:michaelangelica at gmail.com>  

To: lou gold <mailto:lou.gold at gmail.com>  ; Terra Preta
<mailto:terrapreta at bioenergylists.org>  

Sent: Sunday, May 11, 2008 9:18 PM

Subject: Re: [Terrapreta] Your input needed: "Soil health" at Roundtable
onSustainable Biofuels

 

 

 BIG ENERGY 

 

OK 

I just get the feeling that the hysterical anti-biofuels stuff is being
orchestrated, like the tobacco lobby.
Certainly there have been some early 'cock-ups' and subsiding corn ethanol
is a bit stupid.
(But the more everyone winges about Western- USA, EU, Japan, Korea,
Aust.-subsidies the more things stay the same).
Bio-fuels have to be a stop-gap measure for the planet, till we invent
something better.
Unfortuanely the 'bum rap' biofuels are getting in the States is rubbing off
on sugar-cane ethanol here.  Only one or two states have mandated 10%
ethanol and we do not have our own souce of fuel oil. It is all imported. 
Biofuels have the potential to take our fuel supplies out of the hands of a
dozen companies/counties /people and making countless-thousand, little
businesses and happy farmers.
m :twocents:



It's important to note that the subsidies (or tariffs) for US ethanol go to
both oil companies and corn farming. Today, the NY Times editorialized
against continued support for US corn ethanol:
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/05/11/opinion/11sun1.html?hp

On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 4:35 PM, Michael Bailes <michaelangelica at gmail.com>
wrote:

You may be interested in this
http://hypography.com/forums/terra-preta/11716-what-plants-might-grown-just-
bio.html

Dynamotive is producing Bio-oil from pyrolysis and is experimenting with it
as a soil amendment-fertiliser-additive
Michael

BIG OIL does not like biofuels; Do they?

2008/5/1 Laurens Rademakers <lrademakers at biopact.com>:

Hi,

I'm part of the Roundtable on Sustainable Biofuels (at the Ecole
Polytechnique Federale de Lausanne's Energy Center), which is developing
social, environmental and other sustainability criteria for biofuels. It
does so in a set of discussion groups 

 

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