[Terrapreta] Plant reaction to stress

[lou gold]

Hi Sean,

Actually plant communities do evolve toward mutuality. In my old Oregon
forests a serious disturbance like a stand-removing fire will be regenerated
first by a colonizing mono-crop of Douglas fir. Later, as a result of many
factors, it will diversify into a full-species-range of an old growth forest
whose resilience is based on lots of checks-and-balances and mutualities.
No, it's not anthropocentric altruism. It's something much more powerful and
natural -- a network of recycling sustainable life.

hugs,

lou

On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 12:45 PM, Sean K. Barry <sean.barry at juno.com> wrote:

>  Hi Nikolaus,
>
> I really appreciate your "on the spot" comments.  You are in a somewhat
> unique position, with probably a very healthy agronomist's experience and
> direct involvement so much with agricultural production.  You make a very
> interesting point here about how the human species acts when under stress.
> This may help answer for the reasons why humans are such an adaptable
> species.  We might possibly benefit from more forward looking and concern
> for the well fare of future generations of our species.  I think so.  This
> "fend for yourself and only the others now around you" mentality smacks of
> selfishness and minimal effort to me.  It is the the good old "American Way
> of Life", heh?!  It might be good for plants or more primitive animal
> species, who need only for themselves to survive, or can't think of or
> beyond their own living existence.  But, I think that humans working for the
> benefit of the yet to be conceived and born other humans is a good thing and
> perhaps one of the greatest tools that humans can use to survive as
> species.  Wouldn't it be great if we could train other species to do
> likewise?  Better yet, train other species to support our lives better,
> because we support theirs.  Maybe some of the people involved in animal
> husbandry think they are doing this already?
>
> I doubt we will educate plants to this sort of "altruistic" career.
>
> Regards,
>
> SKB
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Nikolaus Foidl <nfoidl at desa.com.bo>
> *To:* terrapreta at bioenergylists.org
> *Sent:* Monday, May 12, 2008 9:53 AM
> *Subject:* [Terrapreta] Plant reaction to stress
>
>
> Dear SEAN,MFH!
>
> A small but essential correction,plants when under stress under a
> continuous
> (nutrient and other limiting factors taking in a count) inventory, decide
> to abort flowers, onset of fruits and half developed fruits to guarantee
> that the remaining off springs have good quality and are viable reservoirs
> of there genes. They do not rise seed production under stress, in
> contrary.
>
> Plants do not have a selfish, individual centered live , they always
> concentrate on the survival of the species.This is better done with less
> but
> well developed seeds.The human being is the only species, that reproduces
> with the focus that the children might sustain their parents in case of
> crisis. In plants, this never would happen.
>
> Best regards Nikolaus
>
>
>
>
>
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